In this crazy episode that took several days of filming due to me having several jobs and my camera being messed up for some reason…. Solomon was super patient with me and the equipment issues that arose. Solomon has been in the Austin comedy scene for 3 years, with 3 appearances on KillTony. He hails from Pakistan and made his way to Austin by way of New York. This feller is a well-traveled, well-spoken individual with a wealth of knowledge from the theater. Solomon also has his project “Comedy Cowboys” (link below), where he interviews comedians around the Austin area. Go check it out! It was wonderful having Solomon over for the show! Thank you again, man, for not giving up on me during that camera crap. Enjoy the show!
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00:00:50 --> 00:00:52 All right, yeah, there we go. All right, we were
00:00:52 --> 00:00:54 doing it. Yeah, finally. It's happening. Yeah.
00:00:54 --> 00:00:56 Yeah, dude, I'm happy. That's great, man. Thank
00:00:56 --> 00:00:58 you. I'm happy that it's finally. Thank you for...
00:00:58 --> 00:01:02 for being cool and patient and dealing with my
00:01:02 --> 00:01:05 craziness. It's all good, man. It's all good.
00:01:06 --> 00:01:11 Being here in Texas has kind of like taken me
00:01:11 --> 00:01:14 out of that New York, like go, go, go. Everything
00:01:14 --> 00:01:18 has to be on time. If it's not on time, that's
00:01:18 --> 00:01:21 a problem kind of mode. Yeah. So like living
00:01:21 --> 00:01:23 here, it's kind of like taken me out of it. It's
00:01:23 --> 00:01:27 like, okay, it's okay. Yeah, it's more go with
00:01:27 --> 00:01:30 the flow here. Go with the flow. And, you know,
00:01:30 --> 00:01:35 people have, you know, different cultures have
00:01:35 --> 00:01:40 different, you know, timings also. So not everyone.
00:01:41 --> 00:01:45 And the thing about living in New York is like
00:01:45 --> 00:01:49 New York in itself is its own country, kind of
00:01:49 --> 00:01:52 like culture. Yeah. And you kind of like move
00:01:52 --> 00:01:56 out of it. you're in a different world. You're
00:01:56 --> 00:02:01 like, okay, now I am the problem. Because I'm
00:02:01 --> 00:02:04 always on time. I'm always looking for efficiency.
00:02:04 --> 00:02:08 I'm always like, so in New York City, if you're
00:02:08 --> 00:02:12 on time, you're late. And if you're late, don't
00:02:12 --> 00:02:15 bother. And that actually means don't bother
00:02:15 --> 00:02:19 because there's a hundred people standing right
00:02:19 --> 00:02:22 after you. They're going to take your work. Yeah,
00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 pretty much. Did you, like, take the subway everywhere?
00:02:25 --> 00:02:30 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cars, that's, you
00:02:30 --> 00:02:34 know, a different... Subways, walk, you walk
00:02:34 --> 00:02:38 everywhere. Yeah. But the thing about, like,
00:02:38 --> 00:02:44 timing... See, I grew up in Pakistan. Yeah. And
00:02:44 --> 00:02:49 Pakistan and southern part of America... Because
00:02:49 --> 00:02:53 they kind of like fall on a, on a very, uh, I
00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 believe on the same latitude. It's the same temperature
00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 line across the world. And it's kind of like
00:02:58 --> 00:03:03 producing the same kind of culture. And what
00:03:03 --> 00:03:06 I've. Like the temperature goes. Yeah. So a temperature
00:03:06 --> 00:03:10 produces a certain type of culture. Yeah. And
00:03:10 --> 00:03:12 what I've been noticing is like, yeah, that's,
00:03:13 --> 00:03:18 uh, so when I came. grew up in Pakistan and came
00:03:18 --> 00:03:22 to New York, you become efficient and then you
00:03:22 --> 00:03:25 kind of like move here and it's like, oh, I'm
00:03:25 --> 00:03:28 back into the same culture that I kind of grew
00:03:28 --> 00:03:32 up in because timing. When you left Pakistan,
00:03:32 --> 00:03:35 did you, did you go right to New York? I'm sorry.
00:03:35 --> 00:03:37 Okay, cool. So you went right to New York. And
00:03:37 --> 00:03:39 then, uh, so it wasn't like a culture shock.
00:03:39 --> 00:03:42 I feel like coming from Pakistan and going to
00:03:42 --> 00:03:44 New York would be like, kind of like, holy shit.
00:03:45 --> 00:03:49 It was a huge culture shock, but, um, my dad
00:03:49 --> 00:03:52 had been in New York since the early nineties
00:03:52 --> 00:03:57 and we were growing up in Pakistan and, uh, growing
00:03:57 --> 00:04:02 up there, you, because you have like a reference
00:04:02 --> 00:04:06 of New York city and. We would get clothes or
00:04:06 --> 00:04:10 occasionally snickers, sneakers and all the equipment,
00:04:10 --> 00:04:12 you know. I was like, snickers? No, snickers
00:04:12 --> 00:04:17 too. Snickers too. Snickers, Hershey's. So we
00:04:17 --> 00:04:21 kind of like had a little bit of a like input
00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 of like America and New York. And also you watch
00:04:24 --> 00:04:32 media and growing up under. Also went to English
00:04:32 --> 00:04:37 medium schools. So English kind of was like your
00:04:37 --> 00:04:40 second language. I wouldn't say second, but kind
00:04:40 --> 00:04:42 of like a first language. That's the first language
00:04:42 --> 00:04:46 you learn in school and your own language is
00:04:46 --> 00:04:50 your second language as a subject. Yeah. So that's
00:04:50 --> 00:04:54 how you kind of like, okay. It wasn't like, oh,
00:04:54 --> 00:04:56 I'm, when I'm coming to New York, it's like,
00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 oh, it's completely, I don't even know the language
00:04:59 --> 00:05:02 kind of a shock, but it was like, Oh, now I just
00:05:02 --> 00:05:10 have to adjust to this, to this pace. So in Pakistan,
00:05:10 --> 00:05:13 how would you describe, I guess, the pacing?
00:05:15 --> 00:05:19 Paint a picture of where you came from versus
00:05:19 --> 00:05:25 New York. So growing up in Pakistan, 80s and
00:05:25 --> 00:05:30 90s, It was seriously a third world country back
00:05:30 --> 00:05:34 then. And it was like, uh, poverty. Like you
00:05:34 --> 00:05:40 see it everywhere and very slow. So the things
00:05:40 --> 00:05:43 you kind of like see on the television, like
00:05:43 --> 00:05:46 go the poverty of India and Pakistan. That's
00:05:46 --> 00:05:49 kind of what it was, but it was growing by the
00:05:49 --> 00:05:52 early two thousands. It kind of like got a little
00:05:52 --> 00:05:59 bit of like a jolt and. mid nineties is also
00:05:59 --> 00:06:04 the history of Pakistan is kind of like has Islamic
00:06:04 --> 00:06:06 fundamentalists. They come in and go and they
00:06:06 --> 00:06:09 take charge and they go and then the moderates
00:06:09 --> 00:06:14 come in. And so every time there was a long period
00:06:14 --> 00:06:19 when we had like the Islamic So in that time,
00:06:19 --> 00:06:22 there was the media was like blocked or you would
00:06:22 --> 00:06:26 have just one state channel or one channel that.
00:06:27 --> 00:06:31 So our influence was from India. Growing up over
00:06:31 --> 00:06:34 like there, we would watch Indian media more
00:06:34 --> 00:06:37 than our own media because we didn't really have
00:06:37 --> 00:06:41 enough media. But early 2000s and mid 90s is
00:06:41 --> 00:06:45 when the satellite dishes came in. So the satellite
00:06:45 --> 00:06:49 dishes kind of brought. MTV and just like mid
00:06:49 --> 00:06:53 90s is when the you remember that show the grind
00:06:53 --> 00:06:57 on MTV. There was a show like house parties.
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 Oh yeah. Like real world. Yeah. It was like,
00:07:00 --> 00:07:02 Oh, so then that's when you first time you kind
00:07:02 --> 00:07:06 of like, Oh, That's what happens. Wow. So how
00:07:06 --> 00:07:08 old were you like when you first saw like this
00:07:08 --> 00:07:12 MTV thing? 12, 13 maybe like something like that.
00:07:12 --> 00:07:14 Yeah. Did you ever watch Beavis and Butthead?
00:07:14 --> 00:07:18 Beavis and Butthead, of course. Yeah. So from
00:07:18 --> 00:07:22 that cable television, we would get Cartoon Network
00:07:22 --> 00:07:25 as well. Oh, hell yeah. So we were getting a
00:07:25 --> 00:07:28 lot of channels from like from that day, but
00:07:28 --> 00:07:31 we would have to have like a huge dish antenna
00:07:31 --> 00:07:34 on top of your house. And yeah, and then you
00:07:34 --> 00:07:36 would have to have a receiver and then, oh my
00:07:36 --> 00:07:40 God, it was kind of like a big deal. So this
00:07:40 --> 00:07:43 was like pretty exciting for y 'all to get this
00:07:43 --> 00:07:47 stuff. Yeah, we were getting like Nike shoes
00:07:47 --> 00:07:51 and clothings and we were like wearing all these,
00:07:51 --> 00:07:55 but that's kind of what was the difference was
00:07:55 --> 00:07:59 you're growing up in a third world country with
00:07:59 --> 00:08:02 a certain... I wouldn't call it privilege, but
00:08:02 --> 00:08:05 it was just a little bit of like, oh, I have
00:08:05 --> 00:08:09 my dad's in America. Oh, okay. Yeah. So was that
00:08:09 --> 00:08:12 like looked at like at in high regard? Well,
00:08:12 --> 00:08:16 in that society, it's, uh, well, yeah, you have
00:08:16 --> 00:08:18 a little bit more money than the rest of them.
00:08:18 --> 00:08:21 Gotcha. And then you're going to English schools
00:08:21 --> 00:08:24 and you know, your parents are putting all their
00:08:24 --> 00:08:28 money into your education. So, so rest of the,
00:08:29 --> 00:08:34 um, rest of the people around you, you kind of
00:08:34 --> 00:08:38 like, okay, I really have to, I can't, you know,
00:08:38 --> 00:08:42 be, and, you know, I don't want to be showing
00:08:42 --> 00:08:49 off or this kind of, yeah. But that, that society,
00:08:49 --> 00:08:51 I was earlier, I was talking about how it's so
00:08:51 --> 00:08:55 similar to here and it's like the similarities
00:08:55 --> 00:08:58 are, and now I'm kind of like working on this
00:08:58 --> 00:09:01 entire like set of how many material around it,
00:09:01 --> 00:09:04 like, why does it make all sense? Yeah. And I
00:09:04 --> 00:09:07 think it's the heat, it produces a certain temperature
00:09:07 --> 00:09:12 where timing is all, you know, people are like,
00:09:12 --> 00:09:16 they're all, they're very polite. Here? Here.
00:09:16 --> 00:09:18 They're very polite here. Here, they're very
00:09:18 --> 00:09:22 polite in Pakistan. Everyone's that, what I'm
00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 saying is that temperature produces a very polite
00:09:25 --> 00:09:29 culture, but... Interesting. From that politeness,
00:09:30 --> 00:09:34 like you're always saying yes. Right. And you
00:09:34 --> 00:09:36 kind of like lose authenticity when you're like,
00:09:36 --> 00:09:39 okay, I said yes. Did I really mean it? Man,
00:09:39 --> 00:09:45 is that what it is? So from growing up in that
00:09:45 --> 00:09:50 culture, I come to New York City where it's like,
00:09:50 --> 00:09:53 you have, no one's going to give you any quarters
00:09:53 --> 00:09:57 if you... Flake or mistake or this. Mm -hmm.
00:09:57 --> 00:10:00 It's like you bring your hundred percent a game
00:10:00 --> 00:10:06 Or don't come at all. Yeah. Yeah, so that kind
00:10:06 --> 00:10:10 of like changes your a bit of a No, I have to
00:10:10 --> 00:10:14 be more authentic Sure, and when I say a yes,
00:10:14 --> 00:10:19 I should be there half an hour before Yeah, gotcha.
00:10:19 --> 00:10:21 So that's like your whole, like if you're on
00:10:21 --> 00:10:23 time, you're late kind of thing. That's where
00:10:23 --> 00:10:27 you get it is New York. But living in New York
00:10:27 --> 00:10:31 with that mentality does create a lot of stress
00:10:31 --> 00:10:34 too. Yeah. Yeah. So what was it in New York that
00:10:34 --> 00:10:37 you were doing that you figured out that, oh
00:10:37 --> 00:10:40 shit, being on time is going to be late? Was
00:10:40 --> 00:10:42 it like auditions and things like that? Like
00:10:42 --> 00:10:47 for... Everything, like functional utilities.
00:10:49 --> 00:10:53 everything will make you feel that you're slow.
00:10:53 --> 00:10:56 So it's literally like just life there. Everything.
00:10:57 --> 00:11:00 That the card that you swipe for subway, if you
00:11:00 --> 00:11:04 are swiping it too slow, it won't open and it
00:11:04 --> 00:11:07 will tell you you're swiping too slow. Okay.
00:11:07 --> 00:11:09 And you won't be able to go. And we're talking
00:11:09 --> 00:11:11 about the train, right? The train, yeah, the
00:11:11 --> 00:11:14 subway train. No, no, it's okay. My fat ass just
00:11:14 --> 00:11:19 went like $5 foot long, dude. Subway, when you
00:11:19 --> 00:11:22 go down the subway, you have to run a card and
00:11:22 --> 00:11:26 the card, if you don't swipe it fast enough,
00:11:27 --> 00:11:30 you won't be able to go. And it will tell you
00:11:30 --> 00:11:34 over, you're swiping too slow. Really? You don't
00:11:34 --> 00:11:38 even be like, dude, hurry up, bro. Yeah. So like
00:11:38 --> 00:11:41 last time after living here, I've been here three
00:11:41 --> 00:11:43 and a half years now. Last time I was back at
00:11:43 --> 00:11:48 home and I swiped the car to get into the subway
00:11:48 --> 00:11:51 and it's like, and it's like swiping too slow.
00:11:51 --> 00:11:55 I'm like, yo, Texas is getting to you. And I
00:11:55 --> 00:11:57 could see that, like that, that railing thing
00:11:57 --> 00:12:00 that stops you. It stops you right in your legs.
00:12:00 --> 00:12:03 And if you're like not... If you're moving too
00:12:03 --> 00:12:06 fast, like how New Yorkers are, it hits you really
00:12:06 --> 00:12:08 hard in your legs. And then you got people behind
00:12:08 --> 00:12:11 you like, hurry up, you bastard. So everything
00:12:11 --> 00:12:14 is like, get going, get moving. Get going, hurry
00:12:14 --> 00:12:16 up. And then here in Texas, it's just, it's a
00:12:16 --> 00:12:20 lot. It's like just whenever, man. It's like,
00:12:21 --> 00:12:25 it's a very Manana culture. I remember you saying
00:12:25 --> 00:12:26 that the other day and I was like, man, that's
00:12:26 --> 00:12:29 pretty good. I wish I could remember that. Yeah,
00:12:29 --> 00:12:36 it is. Well, see, Pakistani culture, Indian culture,
00:12:36 --> 00:12:41 same thing. We have a problem today. We'll think
00:12:41 --> 00:12:44 about thinking about it tomorrow. Yeah. And then
00:12:44 --> 00:12:46 tomorrow never comes. Have you ever been to Maine?
00:12:47 --> 00:12:50 Maine, I have not. Okay. Yeah. So I was in Maine
00:12:50 --> 00:12:54 and Maine is like even slower. Yeah. Like Maine
00:12:54 --> 00:12:57 is even more like, dude. We'll see it was next
00:12:57 --> 00:13:03 week, bro Island time or something. Yeah, I felt
00:13:03 --> 00:13:06 like Maine was like my like the way that I am
00:13:06 --> 00:13:09 as a person I felt like that that was a state.
00:13:09 --> 00:13:13 It's just like sub dude like just totally chill
00:13:13 --> 00:13:17 around Like but uh, but yes continue about New
00:13:17 --> 00:13:20 York. Yeah, New York, man. I came to New York
00:13:20 --> 00:13:27 2006 2006. 2006. And well, growing up in Pakistan,
00:13:27 --> 00:13:31 I was, because we were going to good education,
00:13:31 --> 00:13:34 good schools. Yeah. You said some last time about
00:13:34 --> 00:13:41 Cambridge. Yeah. Cambridge university has, used
00:13:41 --> 00:13:43 to have, now I think they don't have it. All
00:13:43 --> 00:13:47 levels and A levels are like our grade nine,
00:13:47 --> 00:13:52 10 and 11 is all levels, ordinary levels. And
00:13:52 --> 00:13:55 A levels is advanced levels, 12 and 30. So that
00:13:55 --> 00:14:00 British education kind of like trains you to
00:14:00 --> 00:14:03 come to Ivy League universities in America. That's
00:14:03 --> 00:14:06 insane. Yeah. So all those schools are training
00:14:06 --> 00:14:10 these kids to get really good grades and come
00:14:10 --> 00:14:14 out here. So I was studying in that school, banking
00:14:14 --> 00:14:19 family, studying accounting, becoming a chartered
00:14:19 --> 00:14:23 accountant. So in the final year, final year
00:14:23 --> 00:14:27 of my education on grade 12, I was already studying
00:14:27 --> 00:14:29 accounting and I'm like, I can't do it. That's
00:14:29 --> 00:14:31 crazy. They had you studying that in accounting?
00:14:32 --> 00:14:35 Like, or in grade 12, accounting in grade 12?
00:14:36 --> 00:14:38 Yeah. Oh my God. And we had advanced mathematics.
00:14:38 --> 00:14:41 We were doing calculus. We were doing permutation.
00:14:42 --> 00:14:45 A lot of stuff that was. Whoa. College stuff
00:14:45 --> 00:14:49 that is. So when those kids who are coming from
00:14:49 --> 00:14:52 Pakistan and India, coming from that education
00:14:52 --> 00:14:55 system, when they come here, they're two years
00:14:55 --> 00:14:59 ahead. So when these tech bros, Indian tech bros
00:14:59 --> 00:15:02 are coming in or Pakistani tech folks are coming
00:15:02 --> 00:15:05 in, why are they so good? Because their foundation
00:15:05 --> 00:15:10 is laid in a better, because our exposure to
00:15:10 --> 00:15:13 calculus, our exposure to a lot of these hard
00:15:13 --> 00:15:19 subjects is in great nine and ten. Mm -hmm. Where
00:15:19 --> 00:15:26 this comes way later in, you know, the way, well,
00:15:26 --> 00:15:29 you know. Yeah, so it just basically like you,
00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 you just, you're more advanced. You learn a lot
00:15:31 --> 00:15:34 quicker. Yes. You know, and you learn a lot more,
00:15:34 --> 00:15:37 obviously, because, I mean. I just, I don't know,
00:15:37 --> 00:15:40 I could never see like a portion of my life ever
00:15:40 --> 00:15:43 dedicated to any kind of accounting. Like what
00:15:43 --> 00:15:47 so the fuck ever. Like I don't, I still use a
00:15:47 --> 00:15:51 calculator to count. Hey man, I am with you on
00:15:51 --> 00:15:55 that. And that was me, like a 14, 15 year old
00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 kid. I'm like, I cannot do this. No, you can't
00:15:58 --> 00:15:59 fucking do that. Like you don't want to do that.
00:15:59 --> 00:16:02 You want to be out like partying and having fun.
00:16:02 --> 00:16:10 Yeah, exactly. Back in the day, you know, so
00:16:10 --> 00:16:16 this is what happened. One day, I'm like sitting
00:16:16 --> 00:16:20 in the library and I'm balancing books, accounting.
00:16:20 --> 00:16:25 How old are you? 15, 16 years old. 14, 15, balancing
00:16:25 --> 00:16:28 books. I'm just imagining you with like a little
00:16:28 --> 00:16:31 big hat, just like balancing your little books.
00:16:32 --> 00:16:35 Anyway, go on. So back then you had to draw,
00:16:36 --> 00:16:42 this is pre -Excel, it's like we were still drawing
00:16:42 --> 00:16:45 ledgers with hand and we had to write everything
00:16:45 --> 00:16:47 down and then balance it out. And I was fed up
00:16:47 --> 00:16:52 and I went out and I found like four books. There
00:16:52 --> 00:16:55 were only four books of arts, how to draw in
00:16:55 --> 00:16:58 the entire library. Wow. And I'm like, hey man,
00:16:58 --> 00:17:00 librarian, can I take these home? He's like,
00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 yeah. He looked at me, he's like, what are you
00:17:02 --> 00:17:06 doing? I took him home and I drew, started drawing
00:17:06 --> 00:17:12 and then I drew like a vase and some highlights
00:17:12 --> 00:17:17 and I'm like, I am not going back to accounting
00:17:17 --> 00:17:20 ever again. No, you get a drawing book. I wouldn't
00:17:20 --> 00:17:23 want to go back to ledgers either. No, and I
00:17:23 --> 00:17:28 gave it up and I gave it up and the whole...
00:17:28 --> 00:17:32 Like whole family and everyone, my school, everyone's
00:17:32 --> 00:17:35 like, yo, what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm
00:17:35 --> 00:17:39 taking up arts. And it was like a big shock.
00:17:40 --> 00:17:42 My teachers sat me down. They're like, are you
00:17:42 --> 00:17:43 sure you're not going to get a grade in arts?
00:17:44 --> 00:17:47 What are you going to do? I'm like, I don't know,
00:17:48 --> 00:17:51 but I know one thing. I don't want to balance
00:17:51 --> 00:17:55 these books. I'm very good at it. I'm very good
00:17:55 --> 00:17:57 at it. I'm sorry, forgive me for laughing. I
00:17:57 --> 00:18:00 was just like, of course, dude, of course. Like,
00:18:00 --> 00:18:02 yes, you don't want to fucking balance fucking
00:18:02 --> 00:18:06 books. Dude, the thought of that now like upsets
00:18:06 --> 00:18:11 me. And the thing is when you can't find an irregularity,
00:18:11 --> 00:18:15 you have to do the whole thing again. And if
00:18:15 --> 00:18:19 you're not right, you can't just put it into...
00:18:19 --> 00:18:22 So I was I couldn't do it man. Just yeah, you're
00:18:22 --> 00:18:25 just like fuck Yeah, we were your teachers like
00:18:25 --> 00:18:27 oh no, I can't believe we lost another one. Yeah,
00:18:27 --> 00:18:31 well The thing was that I was the only artist
00:18:31 --> 00:18:33 in the entire school. Everybody else was good
00:18:33 --> 00:18:37 with ledgers. Yeah, they were fine and Well,
00:18:37 --> 00:18:39 I don't even know it goes in a ledger. But anyway,
00:18:39 --> 00:18:45 well, there's a lot of expenses and the incomes
00:18:45 --> 00:18:47 that are coming in, the expenses. Oh yeah, we
00:18:47 --> 00:18:49 wanted to watch out. Yeah, I was like, we don't
00:18:49 --> 00:18:53 want to get into ledgers here, dude. I can explain
00:18:53 --> 00:18:55 the whole thing. I think there was like four
00:18:55 --> 00:18:57 car accidents that might have just happened,
00:18:57 --> 00:18:59 just in that sentence alone. They just probably
00:18:59 --> 00:19:04 just nodded off immediately. No, yeah, no. We
00:19:04 --> 00:19:07 don't want ledgers. Yeah. So by the time you
00:19:07 --> 00:19:09 get to New York and everything, like, are you
00:19:09 --> 00:19:12 like drawing like crazy in your art books now?
00:19:12 --> 00:19:18 So, uh, because becoming an artist, they gave
00:19:18 --> 00:19:25 me all the art projects and, and I'm like, okay.
00:19:25 --> 00:19:28 So one art project they gave me was like, Hey,
00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 you have to go out and make a music video. In
00:19:31 --> 00:19:33 2002, Pakistan, in Pakistan. Okay. Just making
00:19:33 --> 00:19:37 sure I'm following. Yeah. So in Pakistan, so
00:19:37 --> 00:19:40 the coming to New York would, I would tell you
00:19:40 --> 00:19:45 like what brought me to New York. So, um, they're
00:19:45 --> 00:19:47 like, you have to make a music video. I'm like,
00:19:47 --> 00:19:50 all right. Oh yeah. Figure it out. So I took
00:19:50 --> 00:19:55 a audio slaves, um, show me how to live. And,
00:19:55 --> 00:20:01 uh, we hired a donkey. And we had him run around
00:20:01 --> 00:20:06 the city and we shot it, borrowed cameras, borrowed
00:20:06 --> 00:20:10 money for editing, but we got it done. We got
00:20:10 --> 00:20:14 that video done and we sent it to this international
00:20:14 --> 00:20:18 competition and won the first prize. Oh yeah.
00:20:18 --> 00:20:23 And I'm like, you know what? That's what I'm
00:20:23 --> 00:20:26 going to be doing in my life. Yeah. The creation.
00:20:26 --> 00:20:30 I don't know what I wanted to create, but I was
00:20:30 --> 00:20:32 still drawing, painting and all that, but that
00:20:32 --> 00:20:38 was okay. So now comes a time when everyone was
00:20:38 --> 00:20:40 leaving for their Ivy league universities and
00:20:40 --> 00:20:43 I was left behind in Pakistan. And I'm like,
00:20:43 --> 00:20:47 oh shit, what have I done? Fuck. Fuck. Right?
00:20:47 --> 00:20:53 Yeah. No school to go to. And I'm just like in
00:20:53 --> 00:20:58 a artist studio in a basement, like drawing and
00:20:58 --> 00:21:02 learning just line, like control line. We would
00:21:02 --> 00:21:05 sit there all day just drawing straight lines.
00:21:05 --> 00:21:09 Yeah, all day. But that was practice to control
00:21:09 --> 00:21:17 the hand and the line. So one school opened up
00:21:17 --> 00:21:19 and I kind of like walked into it and they had
00:21:19 --> 00:21:23 a liberal arts program, film television program.
00:21:23 --> 00:21:26 And I'm like, okay. I've never, I don't have
00:21:26 --> 00:21:29 grades, but I did make a music video, so would
00:21:29 --> 00:21:32 you consider that? The dean was like, yeah, sure,
00:21:32 --> 00:21:37 here, get some scholarship and. Yeah. Um, so
00:21:37 --> 00:21:40 three years film school, Pakistan. Hell yeah.
00:21:40 --> 00:21:42 Bro, it was one of the best times of my life.
00:21:42 --> 00:21:46 Cause, uh, it was a very small, it was just starting.
00:21:46 --> 00:21:49 So it was a very small education. Like we have
00:21:49 --> 00:21:52 a small group. So you're just like watching films
00:21:52 --> 00:21:55 all day and smoke. What kind of movies would
00:21:55 --> 00:22:01 you watch? So as a film student, it was like
00:22:01 --> 00:22:05 you have to watch international cinema as much
00:22:05 --> 00:22:09 as you can. Yeah. And so you're studying basically
00:22:09 --> 00:22:12 films. So for three years, I would say I would
00:22:12 --> 00:22:16 average a movie a day. Yeah. So it was just like
00:22:16 --> 00:22:19 just random movies or were they specific movies?
00:22:20 --> 00:22:23 So sometimes you would get So there was this
00:22:23 --> 00:22:26 one book in our library, a thousand films you
00:22:26 --> 00:22:32 must watch before you die. Oh, nice. So, and
00:22:32 --> 00:22:34 you would kind of like go through that book.
00:22:35 --> 00:22:37 And if you would find, this is DVD time, man.
00:22:38 --> 00:22:44 We had, we could find it VHS or DVD. That's early
00:22:44 --> 00:22:48 2000s is what I'm talking about. Yeah. So any
00:22:48 --> 00:22:52 DVD we could find, we would watch it. a friend
00:22:52 --> 00:22:55 of mine had a huge collection of DVDs he'd been
00:22:55 --> 00:22:59 collecting. His, you know, grandparents were
00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 filmmakers in Pakistan, so he had a huge collection
00:23:02 --> 00:23:07 of, so we would watch like German cinema, Brazilian
00:23:07 --> 00:23:11 cinema, man, you name it, Chinese. There's everything.
00:23:11 --> 00:23:14 Everything. You're just like consuming all that
00:23:14 --> 00:23:18 input. And... Did you have a favorite movie?
00:23:19 --> 00:23:24 Favorite's kind of like... That was one of the
00:23:24 --> 00:23:26 things you kind of like have to, as a filmmaker,
00:23:26 --> 00:23:29 you kind of have to lose favorites. Of course,
00:23:29 --> 00:23:31 of course. Yeah, that's such a silly question.
00:23:31 --> 00:23:33 How was Only Bombs? Yeah, he just asked me my
00:23:33 --> 00:23:40 favorite movie every now and again. No, but learning
00:23:40 --> 00:23:43 from all that, you kind of like have a sense
00:23:43 --> 00:23:45 of like when you see something and you're like,
00:23:45 --> 00:23:50 hey, that's good. That's good, you know. That's
00:23:50 --> 00:23:53 a good movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah right now. I recently
00:23:53 --> 00:23:58 have been so impressed by Shogun Shogun is a
00:23:58 --> 00:24:00 those old like samurai kind of movies. It's a
00:24:00 --> 00:24:04 FX TV show Oh, it's a TV show and I think it's
00:24:04 --> 00:24:09 like a miniseries but Man, they did a great job
00:24:09 --> 00:24:12 with like everything. Oh, yeah, I like I don't
00:24:12 --> 00:24:17 watch shows but then like But I will. I'm not
00:24:17 --> 00:24:20 making a personal choice to be like, no, I'm
00:24:20 --> 00:24:27 not watching shows today. I get bored so easily.
00:24:27 --> 00:24:30 Me too, man. I'm with you, but that's what I'm
00:24:30 --> 00:24:32 saying. When you do catch, something catches
00:24:32 --> 00:24:36 your eye and you're like, no, I gotta watch that.
00:24:36 --> 00:24:40 There's another show, Pantheon, if you're into
00:24:40 --> 00:24:43 tech and all that. It's on Netflix. Pantheon
00:24:43 --> 00:24:47 is a... show about uploaded intelligence. Uploaded
00:24:47 --> 00:24:50 intelligence? Yes. Fuck, I need some of that
00:24:50 --> 00:24:55 shit, dude. Yes. There are some days I'm like,
00:24:55 --> 00:24:58 God, dude, I have nothing to download. You know,
00:24:59 --> 00:25:01 like, nothing today, man. I'm like, fuck, dude.
00:25:01 --> 00:25:03 It just, it gets like that. You know what I mean?
00:25:03 --> 00:25:06 Do you work a lot? Like - I do, yes. Yeah. It's
00:25:06 --> 00:25:08 just, so you know what I'm talking about. Like,
00:25:08 --> 00:25:09 basically, like, you work a lot. You're just,
00:25:09 --> 00:25:12 after a while, you're like, fuck. Yeah, I know,
00:25:12 --> 00:25:15 I know, I know. Like you just said, I don't want
00:25:15 --> 00:25:17 to fucking work. And then you don't know what
00:25:17 --> 00:25:19 to do on your day off, you know? Yeah, exactly.
00:25:19 --> 00:25:21 Yeah. So you get to New York and everything.
00:25:21 --> 00:25:28 Did you? So from film school, I was, you know,
00:25:28 --> 00:25:31 I was doing really good, man. Yeah. Like films
00:25:31 --> 00:25:36 from Dean's Honor List and films getting selected
00:25:36 --> 00:25:40 in India. So it was a lot of like things kind
00:25:40 --> 00:25:43 of like were upping. coming and I visit my dad
00:25:43 --> 00:25:47 in New York city and he's like, Hey, do you want
00:25:47 --> 00:25:53 to look into a school here? And I'm like, okay,
00:25:53 --> 00:25:58 now is my chance to audition to the Ivy league,
00:25:58 --> 00:26:04 you know, standard of education in acting. So
00:26:04 --> 00:26:10 I, even better, even better Stella Adler's acting
00:26:10 --> 00:26:14 studio. is where Marlon Brando studied, is where
00:26:14 --> 00:26:16 all Robert De Niro and they all study method
00:26:16 --> 00:26:19 acting. It's Stella Adler's studio of acting
00:26:19 --> 00:26:23 in New York City. And I go and I audition, man.
00:26:23 --> 00:26:28 And they're like, yeah, welcome. Two years master's
00:26:28 --> 00:26:31 program in acting. Man, that was one of the best
00:26:31 --> 00:26:39 times of my life. It was like, you really understand
00:26:39 --> 00:26:44 acting. And you're like, okay, now I, I get.
00:26:45 --> 00:26:47 Yeah. You're really getting into it. You're really
00:26:47 --> 00:26:49 getting it. You're like, okay, you get it. But
00:26:49 --> 00:26:52 it was like, I was 21 years old when I got out
00:26:52 --> 00:26:58 of school and New York city, just out of school.
00:26:58 --> 00:27:02 Yeah. And I'm like, oh shit, it's the financial
00:27:02 --> 00:27:05 crisis, 09. Yeah. So you're out, wait, I'm sorry.
00:27:05 --> 00:27:08 Like, so you're out of acting school now in 09?
00:27:08 --> 00:27:12 09 is acting school. When I get out from acting
00:27:12 --> 00:27:15 school and financial crisis were upon us. So
00:27:15 --> 00:27:18 I started auditioning. Everyone was on strike.
00:27:19 --> 00:27:22 Broadway was on strike. Everyone was on strike,
00:27:22 --> 00:27:25 man. So couldn't really find anything, any work
00:27:25 --> 00:27:28 anywhere. So like, so during the acting thing,
00:27:29 --> 00:27:31 is this like where you like kind of like fell
00:27:31 --> 00:27:34 in love with comedy? No. In stand -up comedy?
00:27:34 --> 00:27:36 No, you just kind of were like, you were just
00:27:36 --> 00:27:42 loving, just acting. So in Pakistan, being the
00:27:42 --> 00:27:46 only artist, I kind of was like the one who would
00:27:46 --> 00:27:49 organize all the welcome parties and farewell
00:27:49 --> 00:27:52 parties as well, right? Yeah. So you kind of
00:27:52 --> 00:27:56 like on the mic, and I would imitate our principle
00:27:56 --> 00:28:00 And our principal, he was like really big, fat,
00:28:01 --> 00:28:04 popping eyes out. But he would talk like, kind
00:28:04 --> 00:28:06 of like, that was his voice. And I would just
00:28:06 --> 00:28:10 go do his voice on the stage and everyone would
00:28:10 --> 00:28:14 be dying laughing. But I never thought that,
00:28:14 --> 00:28:16 you know, that's something that I want to do.
00:28:16 --> 00:28:18 I was more of like, I want to create films. I
00:28:18 --> 00:28:23 want to do this. I want to be an actor. And during
00:28:23 --> 00:28:25 acting school, I fell in love with Shakespeare,
00:28:25 --> 00:28:29 man. Yeah. Oh man. Naturally. Yeah. You kind
00:28:29 --> 00:28:30 of like have to fall in love with Shakespeare.
00:28:31 --> 00:28:34 Yeah. Because as a practice in school, there
00:28:34 --> 00:28:36 are two things you kind of like always have to,
00:28:38 --> 00:28:42 um, it's a sonnet and a monologue. You kind of
00:28:42 --> 00:28:45 like, that's your daily, you kind of have to
00:28:45 --> 00:28:47 practice your monologues daily. For us, it's
00:28:47 --> 00:28:52 like the Romeo and Juliet, you know, uh, and,
00:28:53 --> 00:28:57 um, But yeah that kind of like the Romeo and
00:28:57 --> 00:29:02 Juliet what the Prologue the prologue for a Romeo
00:29:02 --> 00:29:06 Juliet. That's like our exercise. Mm -hmm and
00:29:06 --> 00:29:11 You pick a sonnet that's your like sonnet for
00:29:11 --> 00:29:14 life kind of like as an actor you kind of like
00:29:14 --> 00:29:18 practice every day Yeah, and mine is like I think
00:29:18 --> 00:29:22 the sonnet 60 something sin of self -love. So
00:29:22 --> 00:29:25 you Do that as a vocal exercise as you pick that
00:29:25 --> 00:29:29 up. But that was kind of like my thing. But,
00:29:29 --> 00:29:32 um, who would you play? I'm sorry. I don't mean
00:29:32 --> 00:29:34 to keep interrupting. I'm just interested. I'm
00:29:34 --> 00:29:38 coming right to your point where who would I
00:29:38 --> 00:29:41 play? I wanted to play all the serious characters.
00:29:41 --> 00:29:46 I wanted to be like Tybalt. Uh, no, I actually
00:29:46 --> 00:29:50 wanted to be, um, Iago and I wanted to play serious
00:29:50 --> 00:29:53 character, Lear. I wanted to play, uh, Richard
00:29:53 --> 00:29:57 the third. That's like, uh, but they would cast
00:29:57 --> 00:29:59 me in, in comic roles. Uh, I think that I, yeah,
00:29:59 --> 00:30:02 I think that I was, uh, I was still hung up on
00:30:02 --> 00:30:04 the whole Romeo and Juliet thing. Oh, Romeo and
00:30:04 --> 00:30:06 Juliet. So when you said that, I was like...
00:30:06 --> 00:30:08 Oh, the serious ones? And like you wanted to
00:30:08 --> 00:30:10 be like Tibb, Alton, Romeo and Juliet? No, no,
00:30:10 --> 00:30:14 no, not Romeo and Juliet. But in Shakespeare,
00:30:14 --> 00:30:18 I wanted to play like hot spur, like the warrior
00:30:18 --> 00:30:22 characters and that. Mark Antony was one of my
00:30:22 --> 00:30:25 auditions, man. Mark Antony, Friends, Romans,
00:30:25 --> 00:30:28 Countrymen, that's like one of my... So not the
00:30:28 --> 00:30:32 popular singer? No, no. Mark Antony from Julius
00:30:32 --> 00:30:36 Caesar. Yeah. Sorry. When I kind of like start
00:30:36 --> 00:30:39 talking Shakespeare, I believe that everyone
00:30:39 --> 00:30:40 kind of like knows what I'm talking about. I
00:30:40 --> 00:30:43 can see you zoning out. I can see you like, wait,
00:30:43 --> 00:30:46 hold on. I was like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I
00:30:46 --> 00:30:47 know. I was like, if you, dude, if you whip out
00:30:47 --> 00:30:51 the word soliloquy right here, I swear. No, but
00:30:51 --> 00:30:53 that's a, no, that's really cool. So you would
00:30:53 --> 00:30:57 always get. You would always get chosen for like...
00:30:57 --> 00:31:00 For comic roles. For comic roles. Yeah. Like,
00:31:01 --> 00:31:04 no, you're playing village idiot. Village idiot.
00:31:04 --> 00:31:07 Yeah. So you're playing village idiot, you're
00:31:07 --> 00:31:10 Sylvius, you know, that's what you're doing.
00:31:11 --> 00:31:17 But I would do it so well that, you know, people
00:31:17 --> 00:31:19 would be laughing, falling out of their chairs.
00:31:19 --> 00:31:21 You see in the audience, you're like, what the
00:31:21 --> 00:31:24 hell? Right. But you're in character so much
00:31:24 --> 00:31:26 that the script and everything is doing its job.
00:31:26 --> 00:31:28 It just starts to become you, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:29 --> 00:31:38 So from drama school, I found work at a bar as
00:31:38 --> 00:31:44 a bar back and slowly worked my way up to managing
00:31:44 --> 00:31:47 partner. Managing partner? Yeah. What was the
00:31:47 --> 00:31:50 managing part? Like at a bar? Like you became
00:31:50 --> 00:31:52 the manager of the bar? This bar was a huge club
00:31:52 --> 00:31:55 in downtown Manhattan, a place called M -15.
00:31:55 --> 00:31:59 It's gone now. Oh. And it was a 5 square
00:31:59 --> 00:32:05 foot club in Tribeca on Walker Street. And...
00:32:05 --> 00:32:10 You give a lot of detail. I think it's just so
00:32:10 --> 00:32:12 funny cause I'm sitting next to you and I'm like,
00:32:12 --> 00:32:14 wait, hold on. I was just there. I was like,
00:32:14 --> 00:32:18 is this that Cambridge thing where you explain
00:32:18 --> 00:32:20 something and you're just like, yeah, I was drinking
00:32:20 --> 00:32:22 out of a bottle. Yes, the bottle was plastic.
00:32:23 --> 00:32:27 Just to let you know. There was a screw top.
00:32:27 --> 00:32:31 I had a choice between a screw top and a... I'm
00:32:31 --> 00:32:32 like sitting there, can you drink the fucking
00:32:32 --> 00:32:34 water? You drink the fucking water. No, no, no.
00:32:35 --> 00:32:37 But no, that's really... cool that you could
00:32:37 --> 00:32:40 recall so much stuff like that. I could tell
00:32:40 --> 00:32:43 that like, like that your, your sense of observation
00:32:43 --> 00:32:46 is already extremely keen, you know, which kind
00:32:46 --> 00:32:49 of like, to me, like, you know, I feel like when
00:32:49 --> 00:32:51 you write your comedy and things like that, I
00:32:51 --> 00:32:53 could, I could feel like that you would have
00:32:53 --> 00:32:55 a lot of material because you took everything.
00:32:55 --> 00:32:58 Do you feel the same way? Yes. Yeah. That's where
00:32:58 --> 00:33:00 the stage is right now where I am, where I'm
00:33:00 --> 00:33:04 like, all this observation. And with cultural
00:33:04 --> 00:33:06 differences and all this, it's like comedies
00:33:06 --> 00:33:10 are coming up. Yeah. So this is where it comes
00:33:10 --> 00:33:14 from studying accounting, man. You kind of like
00:33:14 --> 00:33:19 have to go deep down into find out the irregularity,
00:33:19 --> 00:33:23 right? Yeah, I guess. In accounting? In accounting,
00:33:23 --> 00:33:25 when you were balancing anything, you have to
00:33:25 --> 00:33:30 kind of like go in everything, deep down in the
00:33:30 --> 00:33:33 rabbit holes to find what the problem is. So
00:33:33 --> 00:33:37 when that mentality, you take it into arts, into
00:33:37 --> 00:33:42 film, into anything, you're like, okay, I'm going
00:33:42 --> 00:33:45 deep. Wow. Interesting. I've never really thought
00:33:45 --> 00:33:47 about it like that before. So when I took it
00:33:47 --> 00:33:49 to acting, it was the same thing. I'm going Shakespeare,
00:33:49 --> 00:33:51 I'm going deep. Yeah, you're just going real,
00:33:51 --> 00:33:55 real deep. Right? So like, how long was it before
00:33:55 --> 00:33:59 you, I guess, from acting until you actually
00:33:59 --> 00:34:05 got up on stage at like an open mic? The bar
00:34:05 --> 00:34:09 kind of like took me. And that lifestyle, that
00:34:09 --> 00:34:13 nightlife, New York City just takes over. You're
00:34:13 --> 00:34:17 just like, I'm in my early twenties and I got
00:34:17 --> 00:34:21 the keys to a huge club in New York City. Man,
00:34:21 --> 00:34:23 I made it to the top of the world. That's pretty
00:34:23 --> 00:34:27 crazy. Bro, it was the best. It was like, you
00:34:27 --> 00:34:30 have all the attention and as an actor, you were...
00:34:30 --> 00:34:34 You know, you got the charm going. I think that
00:34:34 --> 00:34:37 was charm school for me because I learned so
00:34:37 --> 00:34:40 much about human psychology and people coming,
00:34:40 --> 00:34:43 talking to you, just having, you know, drunk
00:34:43 --> 00:34:47 conversations and all that. You kind of like
00:34:47 --> 00:34:50 soak it in as a human character. Oh, that character,
00:34:50 --> 00:34:52 that guy. You kind of like soak in because New
00:34:52 --> 00:34:56 York city, man, everyone in the world is there.
00:34:56 --> 00:35:00 You kind of like absorb all that. But that. takes
00:35:00 --> 00:35:04 a toll on you to that lifestyle. So I had turned
00:35:04 --> 00:35:08 into a 300 plus pound bottle down alcoholic man.
00:35:09 --> 00:35:12 It was puking my guts out every morning. It was
00:35:12 --> 00:35:14 that bad. It sucks. Yeah. It sucks really bad.
00:35:14 --> 00:35:16 I know, I know what you mean. How long have you,
00:35:16 --> 00:35:18 are you sober now? Yes. Yeah. How long have you
00:35:18 --> 00:35:20 been sober for? Uh, it's going to be five years
00:35:20 --> 00:35:26 now. 2021. Wow. So the pandemic kind of woke
00:35:26 --> 00:35:32 me up and uh, brought me back to zero. I was
00:35:32 --> 00:35:34 pumping gas at a gas station in Jersey during
00:35:34 --> 00:35:39 the pandemic and night shift, nothing to do and
00:35:39 --> 00:35:43 on Joe Rogan's podcast. And I'm like, okay, I
00:35:43 --> 00:35:48 can turn my life around first with health. And
00:35:48 --> 00:35:56 once I saw like Kill Tony when they moved out
00:35:56 --> 00:36:01 here. and they were giving Hans him a chance
00:36:01 --> 00:36:07 and Hans kind of like was coming up. That moment
00:36:07 --> 00:36:13 was like, hey, maybe that's my way back to arts
00:36:13 --> 00:36:16 and the life, the things that I went to school
00:36:16 --> 00:36:22 for. Maybe that's my way back to the stage or,
00:36:22 --> 00:36:24 you know, because... You know, you see Joe does
00:36:24 --> 00:36:28 it a lot for a lot of comedians. Yeah, like the
00:36:28 --> 00:36:29 stand -up comedy thing? For stand -up comedy.
00:36:29 --> 00:36:32 And I'm like, hey, the comics also do it for
00:36:32 --> 00:36:35 other comics. So you just, you know, start somewhere.
00:36:37 --> 00:36:41 And so this flat fat blob at the gas station
00:36:41 --> 00:36:44 kind of like thinking like, hey, man, maybe you
00:36:44 --> 00:36:48 got to get on Keltoni. Really? 2020 is when I'm
00:36:48 --> 00:36:52 like, I got to start preparing for Keltoni. because
00:36:52 --> 00:36:55 that's my way back to stage. And I kind of like
00:36:55 --> 00:36:58 realized, man, you always got casted in the comic
00:36:58 --> 00:37:01 role, but you wanted to play serious characters.
00:37:02 --> 00:37:05 Just lean into this comedy and see where it takes
00:37:05 --> 00:37:10 you. Yeah. Yeah. So that's when I shifted, when
00:37:10 --> 00:37:13 I'm like, okay, now I'm concentrating on comedy,
00:37:14 --> 00:37:18 stand -up comedy as an art form. Before that,
00:37:18 --> 00:37:21 I... I wouldn't even go to comedy shows in New
00:37:21 --> 00:37:24 York City. No, that was not even the question
00:37:24 --> 00:37:27 of like, oh, I want to be a comedian or stand
00:37:27 --> 00:37:32 up comic. No. And it was, it was like, okay.
00:37:33 --> 00:37:39 But that, that path of recovery from alcoholism
00:37:39 --> 00:37:42 and, you know, getting out of those addictions
00:37:42 --> 00:37:44 and learning your own patterns and learning all
00:37:44 --> 00:37:47 those things. A lot of these lessons kind of
00:37:47 --> 00:37:51 like, kind of like you learn and you want to
00:37:51 --> 00:37:54 tell your friends and your brothers and your
00:37:54 --> 00:37:57 sisters and be like, Hey, this is kind of like
00:37:57 --> 00:38:00 a lesson I learned. I see you in this predicament.
00:38:00 --> 00:38:06 I kind of came out of this in this way, but when
00:38:06 --> 00:38:10 you tell them they don't want to listen. And
00:38:10 --> 00:38:12 it's like a very like, Oh, who are you to tell
00:38:12 --> 00:38:17 us? So you're like, okay, how? Can I transfer
00:38:17 --> 00:38:23 this information without getting, you know, without
00:38:23 --> 00:38:27 making someone upset? So that's when I'm like,
00:38:27 --> 00:38:35 oh, maybe standup comedy is your tool to take
00:38:35 --> 00:38:39 a subject that's very hard to swallow and turn
00:38:39 --> 00:38:46 it into digestible. laughable material so you
00:38:46 --> 00:38:48 can transfer this information. So that was like,
00:38:48 --> 00:38:53 okay, now you have a purpose. Start from walking
00:38:53 --> 00:38:55 around the palms, man, getting turned by a whole
00:38:55 --> 00:39:01 gas station into a gym. There was a cement bag
00:39:01 --> 00:39:04 that was left in the rain and become like a rock.
00:39:04 --> 00:39:08 I taped it. That was like my weight. You couldn't
00:39:08 --> 00:39:13 find weights in early pandemic. So I had rudimentary
00:39:13 --> 00:39:15 weight. So I was working out at the gas station,
00:39:15 --> 00:39:19 man. It was like a Rocky movie. People were honking,
00:39:20 --> 00:39:24 passing by. I was running. And all my regular
00:39:24 --> 00:39:28 people who would come get gas trucks and everything,
00:39:28 --> 00:39:31 they would be like cheering me on. So every,
00:39:31 --> 00:39:34 you know, it took me a year to get sober, but
00:39:34 --> 00:39:37 once I got sober, it was game. And so your whole
00:39:37 --> 00:39:41 reason for sobriety was essentially to just get
00:39:41 --> 00:39:47 in the standup. Well, to get on stage. The school
00:39:47 --> 00:39:58 that I went to, and the whole sobriety time that
00:39:58 --> 00:40:04 it took me three, four years to like rewire myself,
00:40:04 --> 00:40:06 I had to study a lot of like ancient religion.
00:40:07 --> 00:40:12 So one thing happened to me and The one saying
00:40:12 --> 00:40:14 about New York City, if you can make it there,
00:40:14 --> 00:40:17 you can make it anywhere. The city will give
00:40:17 --> 00:40:21 you that. It will make you come to the top of
00:40:21 --> 00:40:26 the world. And you were able to feel that loneliness
00:40:26 --> 00:40:29 too. The loneliness at the top of the pyramid.
00:40:30 --> 00:40:33 It is very lonely. And I felt that. I'm like,
00:40:33 --> 00:40:36 I have everything. Thousand people dancing around
00:40:36 --> 00:40:41 me. I have lifestyle. I have. But there was no
00:40:41 --> 00:40:45 inner satisfaction that really was not, I was
00:40:45 --> 00:40:49 balancing books. Right. At the club. And yeah,
00:40:49 --> 00:40:53 and you were wanting to get up on stage. Or be
00:40:53 --> 00:40:58 creative in a way. So in that process of recovery,
00:40:58 --> 00:41:02 I learned from a lot of religions and all, they
00:41:02 --> 00:41:10 all kind of like bring you down into like living
00:41:10 --> 00:41:17 in the present, present moment. So art and all
00:41:17 --> 00:41:22 this kind of like brings you into what, did you
00:41:22 --> 00:41:25 have a question or so? No, no. Are we just. Yeah.
00:41:25 --> 00:41:28 Well, the question that I was asking was like,
00:41:28 --> 00:41:31 uh, from like New York, like when you get to
00:41:31 --> 00:41:33 New York and everything, like to stand up comedy.
00:41:36 --> 00:41:38 How'd you connect the dots to getting on stage
00:41:38 --> 00:41:42 as a standup comedian? So the thing was like,
00:41:42 --> 00:41:45 the reason that became standup was like, so I
00:41:45 --> 00:41:48 have all these lessons that I've learned. I need
00:41:48 --> 00:41:58 to transfer them to standup. And to, so, so Kill
00:41:58 --> 00:42:02 Tony, I'm like, okay. I'm going to go do or die
00:42:02 --> 00:42:06 on Keltoni. And if they give me a thumbs up,
00:42:06 --> 00:42:10 I'll continue with standup or see how it goes.
00:42:10 --> 00:42:12 Oh, okay. So, so you weren't really a standup
00:42:12 --> 00:42:15 comedian? No, I was not. Oh, okay. Gotcha. I
00:42:15 --> 00:42:17 was like, I'm going to go, I'm going to survive
00:42:17 --> 00:42:20 the minute and I'm going to bring material for
00:42:20 --> 00:42:25 the interview. But that was also just me. I had
00:42:25 --> 00:42:28 to get my confidence up, man. Cause like imagine
00:42:28 --> 00:42:31 300 pounds, you kind of like slowly, slowly you're
00:42:31 --> 00:42:34 building yourself back up. You're reducing your
00:42:34 --> 00:42:38 weight down and kill Tony first time. Yeah. I
00:42:38 --> 00:42:42 get on, they're like, pretty good, man. Yeah.
00:42:42 --> 00:42:44 Like you did all right. Yeah. Yeah. We'll survive
00:42:44 --> 00:42:47 the minute. And then interview was great. Did
00:42:47 --> 00:42:50 some Shakespeare too. I saw that. Yeah. Yeah,
00:42:50 --> 00:42:54 that was pretty good. That was Romeo and Juliet,
00:42:54 --> 00:42:56 right? And I was like, wow, that was pretty interesting.
00:42:56 --> 00:43:00 Like you got up there and did that and everything.
00:43:00 --> 00:43:02 Yeah, I don't remember I'm asking you how long
00:43:02 --> 00:43:05 you were doing stand -up for. Do you do like
00:43:05 --> 00:43:08 a lot like now? Are you like an open mic or anything?
00:43:09 --> 00:43:15 So stand -up comedy, so when that, when? Kill
00:43:15 --> 00:43:17 Tony kind of like gave me that boost and then
00:43:17 --> 00:43:21 second boost. I got on two times in the same
00:43:21 --> 00:43:23 year, a few months apart. Wow, that's crazy.
00:43:24 --> 00:43:26 And the second time it was the same thing. The
00:43:26 --> 00:43:29 interview was great, but that's when Tony and
00:43:29 --> 00:43:33 them were like, Hey, you have to take this seriously.
00:43:33 --> 00:43:37 Right. You have to go open mics, figure this
00:43:37 --> 00:43:44 out. Cause you know, you're good. Both interviews,
00:43:44 --> 00:43:47 hilarious, like we're dying laughing. He's like,
00:43:47 --> 00:43:49 how long you been doing comedy? I'm like, two,
00:43:49 --> 00:43:52 three months. Like, no, go do open mics workout.
00:43:52 --> 00:43:57 So I started doing a lot of open mics, 2023 is
00:43:57 --> 00:44:00 when I came out here. So first year, a lot of
00:44:00 --> 00:44:05 open mics and podcasting too. So I was like,
00:44:05 --> 00:44:07 hey, I'm going to get in the mix. I'm going to
00:44:07 --> 00:44:09 understand this, figure this all stand up comedy
00:44:09 --> 00:44:12 out. You get back in your ledger. Back in my,
00:44:12 --> 00:44:18 you know, all my, you know, so it being in that
00:44:18 --> 00:44:22 earlier, I was saying that staying present kind
00:44:22 --> 00:44:27 of is the root of all religions and sobriety
00:44:27 --> 00:44:29 kind of like taught me that take stay here. Yeah.
00:44:30 --> 00:44:34 So that brings me a lot of opportunities and
00:44:34 --> 00:44:39 everything in front of me. So stand up is kind
00:44:39 --> 00:44:44 of like has also another thing that I do want
00:44:44 --> 00:44:50 to, the whole idea of making it, I don't have
00:44:50 --> 00:44:53 that anymore. Kind of made it to the top of the
00:44:53 --> 00:44:56 world in New York city. So now with the whole
00:44:56 --> 00:45:00 idea of like, I have to make it in stand up,
00:45:01 --> 00:45:04 that drive is not that prominent anymore. It's
00:45:04 --> 00:45:09 more like let the process unfold on its own because
00:45:09 --> 00:45:12 it takes you 10 years to get it and you just
00:45:12 --> 00:45:16 started. You're three years old. Don't jump ahead.
00:45:17 --> 00:45:21 Don't let the process happen on its own. Yeah.
00:45:22 --> 00:45:30 So now I do a lot of writing. So this is my third
00:45:30 --> 00:45:33 year, fourth year in standup. And I've been starting
00:45:33 --> 00:45:37 to doing a lot of performances, but first year
00:45:37 --> 00:45:40 it was a lot of open mics. It was just like grind,
00:45:41 --> 00:45:44 grind, grind, this mic, that mic. What are you
00:45:44 --> 00:45:46 talking about? What are you talking about? Yeah.
00:45:47 --> 00:45:50 So like what's your writing been like lately?
00:45:52 --> 00:45:56 So recently it's like, we were talking about
00:45:56 --> 00:46:00 observation. So now I'm like observing things
00:46:00 --> 00:46:05 that are very, Like around here in Austin. Yeah.
00:46:06 --> 00:46:08 And cultural differences from New York city.
00:46:09 --> 00:46:13 And then you have, you see the patterns of this
00:46:13 --> 00:46:17 culture, like Texans in the South and you see
00:46:17 --> 00:46:20 all these patterns and you start like, okay,
00:46:20 --> 00:46:22 this is the material that I want to talk about.
00:46:23 --> 00:46:27 Like when the politeness is just on the face
00:46:27 --> 00:46:31 and when you do get back in my Uber and you start.
00:46:31 --> 00:46:35 taking a shit on your host, man. And I'm like,
00:46:35 --> 00:46:39 why would you be doing that, right? People are
00:46:39 --> 00:46:43 coming out of these parties and they're saying
00:46:43 --> 00:46:46 bye, love you, and they get in my car. And they're
00:46:46 --> 00:46:48 just immediately shitting on the host. On the
00:46:48 --> 00:46:52 host. Oh, okay, yeah. I'm not saying anything.
00:46:52 --> 00:46:53 I'm just observing. You're just listening. I'm
00:46:53 --> 00:46:58 just listening. I'm like, why is this happening,
00:46:58 --> 00:47:05 right? But now the comedy is like, you want to
00:47:05 --> 00:47:07 talk about these things? How are you going to
00:47:07 --> 00:47:11 make these jokes? Yeah. Do you, so do you just
00:47:11 --> 00:47:13 take it and I just kind of go write like with
00:47:13 --> 00:47:16 it or? So with writing, my writing process is
00:47:16 --> 00:47:22 more like, uh, if I write something down, it
00:47:22 --> 00:47:26 kind of like doesn't work for me. It kind of
00:47:26 --> 00:47:30 like binds me or something like that. Oh, okay.
00:47:30 --> 00:47:33 For me, it's more like, I have an idea and I'm
00:47:33 --> 00:47:36 just going to like, keep exploring it and talk
00:47:36 --> 00:47:39 to someone about it. Talk to one of my passengers
00:47:39 --> 00:47:42 about it. Oh, cool. How do you explore it? So
00:47:42 --> 00:47:52 this, um, um, politeness, like. Politeness? Politeness
00:47:52 --> 00:47:56 is a, is a subject like, um, people are very
00:47:56 --> 00:48:01 polite on, you know, Well, I keep saying yes
00:48:01 --> 00:48:04 in politeness. Like I want to make you comfortable.
00:48:04 --> 00:48:07 I'm going to say yes. Right. But I don't really
00:48:07 --> 00:48:11 mean it. Interesting. So now this subject, when
00:48:11 --> 00:48:15 I have passengers who are like Texans and all
00:48:15 --> 00:48:18 that, I raise this subject with them and we kind
00:48:18 --> 00:48:22 of like have a conversation like, Hey, from there
00:48:22 --> 00:48:26 you start like building like, okay, I'm going
00:48:26 --> 00:48:30 to take this, these, these things, and I'm going
00:48:30 --> 00:48:34 to incorporate into a joke that's going to come
00:48:34 --> 00:48:38 out of it. How it's going to come out of it is
00:48:38 --> 00:48:44 like, I don't know, but the universe kind of
00:48:44 --> 00:48:47 like provides every day you kind of like, oh,
00:48:47 --> 00:48:53 this, oh, this, but then a bit on its own starts
00:48:53 --> 00:48:56 to get crafted and it gets crafted in my head.
00:48:56 --> 00:49:00 And it gets solidified in my head. Yeah. And
00:49:00 --> 00:49:03 every time I start talking about it, it comes
00:49:03 --> 00:49:07 out the same way. It comes out the same way.
00:49:07 --> 00:49:09 Same way. So you're able to say the same thing
00:49:09 --> 00:49:12 over and over and over again. So it's like, yeah,
00:49:12 --> 00:49:14 it becomes like a belief on stage. Yeah. Like
00:49:14 --> 00:49:17 right now I've been working on this bit, like
00:49:17 --> 00:49:22 how a city of Austin is like your drunk friend
00:49:22 --> 00:49:25 who hasn't got his shit together. His house is
00:49:25 --> 00:49:29 a mess. There's dog hair everywhere You know,
00:49:29 --> 00:49:32 mm -hmm. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, this is very
00:49:32 --> 00:49:36 true. Yeah fucking HEB People bringing her goddamn
00:49:36 --> 00:49:39 dogs in all the time. I have dogs. I love dogs.
00:49:39 --> 00:49:41 Don't get me wrong Yeah, that's like kind of
00:49:41 --> 00:49:44 like bringing like bringing your dog over to
00:49:44 --> 00:49:46 somebody's house uninvited You know what I mean?
00:49:46 --> 00:49:49 No, I love dogs too. I do that been taking care
00:49:49 --> 00:49:51 of my friends dogs Don't fucking bring your dog
00:49:51 --> 00:49:57 over uninvited Anyway, sorry. No, I got booed
00:49:57 --> 00:49:59 on for kill Tony and talking about dogs. I'm
00:49:59 --> 00:50:01 like, I don't know. People are very sensitive
00:50:01 --> 00:50:05 about dogs. Yeah. Cause uh, yeah. Cause it's
00:50:05 --> 00:50:07 kind of like, I don't want to talk any shit about
00:50:07 --> 00:50:10 on kill Tony was like, Hey, you'd hate dogs.
00:50:10 --> 00:50:13 I'm like, no, I don't hate dogs. I'm just, you
00:50:13 --> 00:50:17 know, this obsession of people with dogs is,
00:50:17 --> 00:50:20 and then I got booed. I'm like, Oh, I think like
00:50:20 --> 00:50:23 people. Don't know like I get it. I get it because
00:50:23 --> 00:50:25 when I was younger I got bit by a dog. Mm -hmm.
00:50:25 --> 00:50:29 So I say younger Fucking like 20 years ago and
00:50:29 --> 00:50:33 I was still 19. Well, but anyway Yeah, no, so
00:50:33 --> 00:50:38 I I got bit by a dog back then and then I stopped
00:50:38 --> 00:50:41 liking dogs Like I started hating them. Oh, no
00:50:41 --> 00:50:45 for like a long time And so like I really wasn't
00:50:45 --> 00:50:48 very like friendly with them. Okay, but then
00:50:48 --> 00:50:52 but then I sort of like You know, basically met
00:50:52 --> 00:50:54 my girlfriend's dog and her dog kind of changed.
00:50:55 --> 00:50:57 Changed, yeah. Yeah, everything. And now I love
00:50:57 --> 00:51:01 dogs, but like, yeah, you're right. Like, you
00:51:01 --> 00:51:03 know, people like, you know, the, the people
00:51:03 --> 00:51:06 look at them, like they're like dog, like they're
00:51:06 --> 00:51:08 their pets, like, but, uh, but people look at
00:51:08 --> 00:51:11 them like they're like real, like they're human
00:51:11 --> 00:51:14 babies. You know what I mean? There's a girl
00:51:14 --> 00:51:18 who brings her. dog at the creek and she holds
00:51:18 --> 00:51:22 that dog in a way that I'm like, bro, what are
00:51:22 --> 00:51:26 you doing? It's like, I like it. I get it. I
00:51:26 --> 00:51:27 get it. I get it. But at the same time, I'm kind
00:51:27 --> 00:51:30 of like, like I just, I don't know. I can't find
00:51:30 --> 00:51:34 myself going to that like extreme, but, but I
00:51:34 --> 00:51:36 do get it because it's not like, they're not
00:51:36 --> 00:51:40 like dogs aren't like, like hamsters and they're
00:51:40 --> 00:51:43 not like livestock, you know, like they actually
00:51:43 --> 00:51:46 have. Like to me, like dogs have more of a personality
00:51:46 --> 00:51:52 than like cats do. Like I can see a dog, but
00:51:52 --> 00:51:54 like when it comes to like cats, for some reason
00:51:54 --> 00:51:58 I'm like, I just, I just feel like they just
00:51:58 --> 00:52:01 want to kill me. Like they only want me to die.
00:52:01 --> 00:52:04 Cats are very mean. Yeah. Yeah. Like, but you
00:52:04 --> 00:52:06 know, I don't know. Like I tried to be like a
00:52:06 --> 00:52:09 cat person, you know, back in the day, but good.
00:52:09 --> 00:52:11 I couldn't pull it off. It was just that fucking
00:52:11 --> 00:52:15 reconsider all the litter. Like, I fucking hate
00:52:15 --> 00:52:18 litter. You know, I'm just not a pet guy. I'm
00:52:18 --> 00:52:19 just not a big pet guy. I think that's really
00:52:19 --> 00:52:21 what it is. I think that's what it boils down
00:52:21 --> 00:52:24 to. Are you a big pet guy? Do you like iguanas?
00:52:24 --> 00:52:27 I grew up with pets. Like, in Pakistan too, we
00:52:27 --> 00:52:32 had dogs, cats around all the time. So it wasn't
00:52:32 --> 00:52:35 really like, I don't mind pets at all. Yeah.
00:52:36 --> 00:52:39 I live in a studio apartment, so... Having a
00:52:39 --> 00:52:42 pet in a studio apartment, I wouldn't want to
00:52:42 --> 00:52:45 leave the pet. No, I wouldn't. I don't want that.
00:52:45 --> 00:52:51 No way. No. There is no fucking way. No. I like,
00:52:52 --> 00:52:54 I had trouble. Like we have a, we have a fairly
00:52:54 --> 00:52:56 big apartment. I say, I have trouble having the
00:52:56 --> 00:53:01 fucking dogs in here. No, one of the reasons
00:53:01 --> 00:53:04 of coming out to Texas was like getting to the
00:53:04 --> 00:53:08 land man. COVID woke us up. in New York City
00:53:08 --> 00:53:11 and I was like, hey man, you don't know anything
00:53:11 --> 00:53:14 about anything growing or anything. So go to
00:53:14 --> 00:53:18 Texas, start stand -up, start your career in
00:53:18 --> 00:53:21 arts. Now I'm back into everything that I went
00:53:21 --> 00:53:24 to school for. Yeah. Would you say that you have
00:53:24 --> 00:53:27 a love for comedy or is it just like, you know,
00:53:27 --> 00:53:32 this is fun? See, the more I've been learning
00:53:32 --> 00:53:35 about it, the more I'm admiring and I'm loving
00:53:35 --> 00:53:41 it. the process, it's like, I didn't start it
00:53:41 --> 00:53:44 as like, Oh, I love standup comedy. I'm going
00:53:44 --> 00:53:47 to go learn it. No, it was like, Hey, standup
00:53:47 --> 00:53:52 comedy is your way back to stage and your it's
00:53:52 --> 00:53:57 your tool for you to whatever, you know, things
00:53:57 --> 00:54:00 that you have learned in your life. You want
00:54:00 --> 00:54:04 to transfer this material to the next generation.
00:54:04 --> 00:54:09 That's a good way. Stand up. And I, you know,
00:54:09 --> 00:54:13 for me growing up, George Carlin was the inspiration
00:54:13 --> 00:54:18 for stand up. Like it was like, the first time
00:54:18 --> 00:54:21 I saw George Carlin, I'm like, that is amazing.
00:54:21 --> 00:54:25 Right. Yeah. And if a person can do that, he
00:54:25 --> 00:54:27 kind of like changed my perspective. That's when
00:54:27 --> 00:54:30 I came to America and when I saw him, it's only
00:54:30 --> 00:54:33 after he had died, I found out about him and
00:54:33 --> 00:54:37 I went in and, you know, looked into a little
00:54:37 --> 00:54:40 bit of his comedy, but I never wanted to be a
00:54:40 --> 00:54:45 stand -up comedian. No, but now the more I learn
00:54:45 --> 00:54:48 about it, the more I'm into it, the more I go
00:54:48 --> 00:54:52 on shows, the more I see my friends who are like
00:54:52 --> 00:54:55 stand -up comics that are like doing like from
00:54:55 --> 00:54:58 one step to another when they're like, oh, he
00:54:58 --> 00:55:00 was doing this bit six months earlier and now
00:55:00 --> 00:55:03 look, this bit has come out this way. That admiration
00:55:03 --> 00:55:06 is like, the love is just growing. It's like,
00:55:07 --> 00:55:11 oh man, I love it now. And now it's more like,
00:55:12 --> 00:55:15 I want to be on stage. I want to transfer. I
00:55:15 --> 00:55:18 want to talk about it. And now, you know, I've
00:55:18 --> 00:55:21 been doing shows here and there. So it's like,
00:55:21 --> 00:55:24 hey, you know, it's coming along. It's like,
00:55:24 --> 00:55:28 oh, I can go talk about, you know, how, you know,
00:55:28 --> 00:55:33 New York and... North and South, the differences
00:55:33 --> 00:55:35 between that I've been finding out, I can go
00:55:35 --> 00:55:39 talk about it and have fun about it. And that's
00:55:39 --> 00:55:42 kind of like, oh, let's talk about some things
00:55:42 --> 00:55:45 that we don't really talk about in real life.
00:55:45 --> 00:55:48 Let's talk about it on stage and see how that.
00:55:50 --> 00:56:00 And also sobriety, all that. staying present
00:56:00 --> 00:56:04 and being a servant to the muse is like whatever
00:56:04 --> 00:56:07 universe is going to give you in the moment,
00:56:08 --> 00:56:13 just have that and you know, live in that. So
00:56:13 --> 00:56:19 we had the other day, one of the cameras kind
00:56:19 --> 00:56:23 of stopped working and I was like, Hey, that's
00:56:23 --> 00:56:28 okay. The universe took me from here. to my friend's
00:56:28 --> 00:56:31 house and we were able to record something over
00:56:31 --> 00:56:35 there. Yeah. And that recording had been delayed
00:56:35 --> 00:56:39 for weeks. Look at that. And I'm like, see, that's
00:56:39 --> 00:56:43 how... This is how it goes, man. You gotta like
00:56:43 --> 00:56:47 let the flow take over. And once it takes over,
00:56:48 --> 00:56:53 it's like... So now the challenge is how to keep
00:56:53 --> 00:56:57 in the flow and trust the flow. Yeah. and not
00:56:57 --> 00:56:59 be that, oh, I need to control this. I need to
00:56:59 --> 00:57:02 control that. I need to do this open mic. I need
00:57:02 --> 00:57:05 to go do that. I need this much stage time. I
00:57:05 --> 00:57:08 need that much stage time. And also management
00:57:08 --> 00:57:11 of attention, man. That's another thing I'm been
00:57:11 --> 00:57:14 working on is like when you do get attention.
00:57:16 --> 00:57:18 The last time I was on Kill Tony, man, I got
00:57:18 --> 00:57:22 so much attention, like viral clips. People were
00:57:22 --> 00:57:26 sending me viral clips. I'm like, People were
00:57:26 --> 00:57:30 cutting clips post. I'm like, okay. I stopped
00:57:30 --> 00:57:33 for like six months. I didn't sign up. I'm like,
00:57:33 --> 00:57:35 you need to manage this attention. Cause there's
00:57:35 --> 00:57:39 a lot of comics that you see get attention and
00:57:39 --> 00:57:45 then you don't hear from them. So that attention
00:57:45 --> 00:57:47 management is something that I was kind of was
00:57:47 --> 00:57:50 like, okay, you need to be very careful with.
00:57:51 --> 00:57:56 Cause there's an energy. So as an actor. Uh,
00:57:57 --> 00:58:01 when you do go up on stage, there's a lot of
00:58:01 --> 00:58:05 energy that you transfer. Yeah. And all that
00:58:05 --> 00:58:10 transfer of energy depletes your energy. This
00:58:10 --> 00:58:15 is very true. Yes. So that how to manage that
00:58:15 --> 00:58:19 is the thing that I'm like very concentrated
00:58:19 --> 00:58:22 on. That's why I've been doing a lot of archery,
00:58:22 --> 00:58:26 hikes, spending time in nature. Oh, hell yeah.
00:58:26 --> 00:58:29 Just, you know, sitting, looking at the water
00:58:29 --> 00:58:33 and forcing myself to be like, hey, stop that
00:58:33 --> 00:58:35 crazy New Yorker. Go, go, go. Why aren't you
00:58:35 --> 00:58:37 making money? Why aren't you doing this? Why
00:58:37 --> 00:58:38 aren't you doing that? Yeah, you're trying to
00:58:38 --> 00:58:41 slow down a little bit. Yeah. And when you slow
00:58:41 --> 00:58:44 down, you listen to what the muse has to say.
00:58:44 --> 00:58:48 Oh, yeah. What are your goals for comedy? Like,
00:58:48 --> 00:58:51 do you have any or? So, for comedy, As of right
00:58:51 --> 00:58:54 now, this is my fourth year and I kind of like
00:58:54 --> 00:58:57 was treating it as a college program. So like
00:58:57 --> 00:59:03 give four years. Yeah. So first year and this
00:59:03 --> 00:59:06 is fourth year and now, um, you know, start doing
00:59:06 --> 00:59:15 shows and stand up filmmaking, all this in hand.
00:59:15 --> 00:59:19 It's all so. When you were asking me, do I have
00:59:19 --> 00:59:23 like, when I see a future plan for comedy, this
00:59:23 --> 00:59:26 is something that I was talking about before
00:59:26 --> 00:59:31 too is like, I've given up on like what the future
00:59:31 --> 00:59:35 is going to hold or what's going to, let me do
00:59:35 --> 00:59:40 this today. And I'm bringing my tool. I'm trained
00:59:40 --> 00:59:45 in film, television, theater. I'm training. I'm
00:59:45 --> 00:59:48 bringing my tool in the present fully. Let the
00:59:48 --> 00:59:53 universe use me how it wants to use me in that
00:59:53 --> 00:59:58 day. So from there, there will be something coming
00:59:58 --> 01:00:03 out of it. But what I do want eventually to have
01:00:03 --> 01:00:09 is a comedy cowboys is my channel on YouTube.
01:00:09 --> 01:00:13 Oh, yeah. So Comedy Cowboys has been the podcast
01:00:13 --> 01:00:17 and now it's turned into a production, Comedy
01:00:17 --> 01:00:23 Cowboys Productions. So, which the idea is we
01:00:23 --> 01:00:25 did a live show as well. People who had been
01:00:25 --> 01:00:29 on the podcast, we did a showcase last year.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:34 And so these are the things like, okay, I could
01:00:34 --> 01:00:37 build this up slowly, slowly, slowly. Don't rush
01:00:37 --> 01:00:41 it. Don't force it. Because there have been times
01:00:41 --> 01:00:44 that I tried to force the podcast. They've been
01:00:44 --> 01:00:48 tried to force the show. It doesn't work. It
01:00:48 --> 01:00:51 creates a huge mess. So I'm like in the flow
01:00:51 --> 01:00:54 of like, okay, when it's going to happen. But
01:00:54 --> 01:00:56 every day you take a step towards it. Like, okay,
01:00:57 --> 01:01:00 what can I do for my show today? Oh, I can do,
01:01:00 --> 01:01:04 I've started doing these a day in the life of
01:01:04 --> 01:01:09 little programs. giving comedians, my friends
01:01:09 --> 01:01:12 highlights like, Hey, day in the life of Blazing
01:01:12 --> 01:01:17 Nana, day in the life of Nick Devlin, Tommy Tickles
01:01:17 --> 01:01:19 and see, you know, so that's kind of like my
01:01:19 --> 01:01:26 filmmakers, um, um, exercise as well. So getting
01:01:26 --> 01:01:30 that production house and also having comedy
01:01:30 --> 01:01:34 cowboys as a live show that we already have done.
01:01:35 --> 01:01:38 As like a recurring one. Yeah, as a recurring
01:01:38 --> 01:01:40 one. Man, that sounds fantastic. Yeah, but it's
01:01:40 --> 01:01:43 gonna be, it's gonna take its time, so no rush.
01:01:43 --> 01:01:46 Yeah, yeah. Every seed takes a minute to grow,
01:01:46 --> 01:01:50 I guess, right? Well, dude, thank you so much,
01:01:50 --> 01:01:51 man, for coming on. I appreciate it, man. Thank
01:01:51 --> 01:01:54 you so much. And thank you for your patience.
01:01:54 --> 01:01:55 Oh, of course. You know, like having to deal
01:01:55 --> 01:01:57 with my craziness, you know. Man, I'm telling
01:01:57 --> 01:02:02 you, staying in the present, whatever the universe
01:02:02 --> 01:02:07 brings, whatever. You know, we have days. That's
01:02:07 --> 01:02:08 what's up, my dude. That's what's up. Hey, thank
01:02:08 --> 01:02:10 you, Solomon. Appreciate you, man. Thank you
01:02:10 --> 01:02:11 so much for coming on. Thank you. Thank you.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:15 Thank you, of course. My pleasure. And that's
01:02:15 --> 01:02:18 it, man. That's a wrap. Thank you. All right,
01:02:19 --> 01:02:20 buddy. Hell yeah.