Kimberly Koester is back 💣 and this time we went deep. We're talking about what it really takes to chase this comedy dream, what it's like living with someone who's blowing up while you're still grinding, and what happens when you give up everything just to get on stage and make people laugh. She's been on Kill Tony, she closed her business, moved from Colorado to Austin, and she's still out here doing it. This one got real. 💥 Grab a cup of coffee and come hang with us. - Trey
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00:00:49 --> 00:00:50 You do whatever you want. All right. I got on
00:00:50 --> 00:00:52 Kill Tony again. I don't know if you remembered
00:00:52 --> 00:00:55 that. You knew that. Oh. I just got on. Oh, my
00:00:55 --> 00:00:58 God. Like a month ago. A month ago. I think I
00:00:58 --> 00:01:00 did see it. Because you got a big joke book.
00:01:00 --> 00:01:03 He said how much he loves you. Yes. And everything.
00:01:03 --> 00:01:05 Yes. And oh, wait, I forgot what they're talking
00:01:05 --> 00:01:07 about. But I remember they were kind of like,
00:01:07 --> 00:01:09 they're bringing up like the same shit, I think,
00:01:09 --> 00:01:11 weren't they? You know, me being a cougar. Yeah,
00:01:11 --> 00:01:13 all that. Yeah. You get that every time, don't
00:01:13 --> 00:01:16 you? I do. Yeah. That's crazy. I know. I think
00:01:16 --> 00:01:19 so, too. How do you feel about that, like, when
00:01:19 --> 00:01:21 the whole Cougar thing? Well, it's flattering.
00:01:21 --> 00:01:23 It's flattering? I mean, you know, I'm 55 years
00:01:23 --> 00:01:28 old, so that people think I'm still fuckable
00:01:28 --> 00:01:32 is, I guess, nice. Yeah. I mean, I could, yeah,
00:01:33 --> 00:01:35 I could look really old, so it's a compliment.
00:01:35 --> 00:01:38 Yeah. I mean... I do look old, but, you know,
00:01:39 --> 00:01:43 fuckably old. No, you look better than... most
00:01:43 --> 00:01:46 55 year olds to be honest with you like seriously
00:01:46 --> 00:01:48 like you know it is weird when you get in your
00:01:48 --> 00:01:53 50s you you look at other 50 year olds and it's
00:01:53 --> 00:01:57 like do i look like that you know it yeah i i
00:01:57 --> 00:02:01 went back to my hometown and um someone from
00:02:01 --> 00:02:04 my high school was like hey kimberly i'm like
00:02:04 --> 00:02:07 who in the hell is that old guy and then i realized
00:02:07 --> 00:02:10 he was someone really cool from high school oh
00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 wow yeah didn't recognize him at all Oh, I'm
00:02:13 --> 00:02:15 just now getting into that, you know, because
00:02:15 --> 00:02:19 I turned 41. And so I'm just now starting to
00:02:19 --> 00:02:21 see that because I'll see people and I'll be
00:02:21 --> 00:02:23 like, oh my gosh, like this dude's got to be
00:02:23 --> 00:02:25 like 50 some of that. And then they're like,
00:02:25 --> 00:02:27 oh no, I'm 40 years old. And I'm like, do I look
00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 like that? Yeah, I think everyone past like the
00:02:30 --> 00:02:33 age of 38, you can't, you know, you can't tell
00:02:33 --> 00:02:35 anyone's age. No. Because some people look really
00:02:35 --> 00:02:39 good and some people do not. No, no. Starts to
00:02:39 --> 00:02:41 catch up with you. Yeah, there was something
00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 else. I forgot. Like I said, my little slate
00:02:44 --> 00:02:46 gets wiped clean. But there was something else
00:02:46 --> 00:02:48 I think my sister and I were talking about. And
00:02:48 --> 00:02:51 there was somebody that they were referring to.
00:02:51 --> 00:02:54 that was like, oh, I think they just passed away.
00:02:54 --> 00:02:56 And they were like 51. And they were like, oh,
00:02:56 --> 00:03:00 they were so old. And I was like, asshole. That's
00:03:00 --> 00:03:03 like 10 years older than I am. Like, it's not
00:03:03 --> 00:03:06 that old. Yeah. I remember in high school, one
00:03:06 --> 00:03:08 of our classmates died in a car accident. And
00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 we were all sitting around after the funeral.
00:03:10 --> 00:03:13 And one of my friends is like, oh, my god, that's
00:03:13 --> 00:03:18 so young. 17 is so young. 30 is even young. And
00:03:18 --> 00:03:20 I remember at the time thinking, well, is it
00:03:20 --> 00:03:24 though? Right. Yeah. Of course, 30 is young.
00:03:25 --> 00:03:27 Yeah. Now you're kind of like, I mean, I look
00:03:27 --> 00:03:30 back at it and I'm like, even people who are
00:03:30 --> 00:03:33 in their early 30s, I'm like, oh yeah, they're
00:03:33 --> 00:03:34 young. Yeah. They're young. Because I mean, I
00:03:34 --> 00:03:37 think what it is too is a lot of the life experience
00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 that you get and when you start actually like
00:03:40 --> 00:03:44 learning about life. Yeah. It's a, I think, you
00:03:44 --> 00:03:46 know, you go through like your 20s and you're
00:03:46 --> 00:03:48 sort of figuring yourself out. You're not really
00:03:48 --> 00:03:51 thinking about life in general. And then you
00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 get older and you start thinking about life.
00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 Right. Yeah. You know, what I, I have, I have
00:03:56 --> 00:03:59 sons in their twenties and I feel like Gen Z
00:03:59 --> 00:04:03 though is so much more savvy than I ever was
00:04:03 --> 00:04:06 in my twenties. And it's because of technology,
00:04:07 --> 00:04:11 but like, I didn't know what a narcissist was
00:04:11 --> 00:04:14 until I was like 40, you know? And my son and
00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 I talk about the characteristics of narcissism
00:04:16 --> 00:04:20 and, you know, all these things that they can
00:04:20 --> 00:04:25 research. I had, I had encyclopedias. The Britannica.
00:04:25 --> 00:04:28 Yeah. Always missing volumes. Yeah. And three
00:04:28 --> 00:04:32 channels. I didn't know anything back then. Yeah.
00:04:32 --> 00:04:34 I kind of grew up the same way. Only had just,
00:04:35 --> 00:04:37 I don't know. I think there was like four channels
00:04:37 --> 00:04:40 that I watched. and one of them being Comedy
00:04:40 --> 00:04:45 Central from way back in the day. But nowadays,
00:04:46 --> 00:04:50 even on my Samsung TV, there's thousands of channels
00:04:50 --> 00:04:55 that they just give you. I don't even watch it.
00:04:55 --> 00:04:59 Because how can you even discover anything? Yeah.
00:04:59 --> 00:05:02 There's too many choices. Yeah. But you're right
00:05:02 --> 00:05:05 about Gen Z, about that. Because they have everything
00:05:05 --> 00:05:07 at their fingertips. Yeah. I love that generation.
00:05:08 --> 00:05:12 I love Gen Z's. They're just, I don't know. Aside
00:05:12 --> 00:05:14 from the tech savviness, is there like another
00:05:14 --> 00:05:16 kind of... I don't know. They're just kind. They're
00:05:16 --> 00:05:20 really kind people. Yeah. You know, when I first
00:05:20 --> 00:05:24 moved here, I worked in a salon and my two best
00:05:24 --> 00:05:29 friends, my two best coworkers were 21 and 23.
00:05:30 --> 00:05:32 And we would just sit and have conversations
00:05:32 --> 00:05:36 all the time. And, you know, it was like, we
00:05:36 --> 00:05:39 just... I don't know. They're just so fun to
00:05:39 --> 00:05:43 bullshit with. But then, you know, you're a millennial,
00:05:43 --> 00:05:46 so I won't talk too badly about you, but millennials
00:05:46 --> 00:05:51 and boomers are very similar to each other. I
00:05:51 --> 00:05:53 feel like maybe they take things more seriously.
00:05:53 --> 00:05:55 I don't know. But then you have Gen X and Gen
00:05:55 --> 00:06:00 Z, and we're just, in my opinion, kind of just
00:06:00 --> 00:06:03 bullshitters. I don't know. Yeah, in an odd way,
00:06:03 --> 00:06:06 I still don't even know what the hell the millennial
00:06:06 --> 00:06:10 thing is. Like, I'm learning the Gen Z because
00:06:10 --> 00:06:13 just because of just conversations I have with
00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 people, you know, a buddy of mine, Scott and
00:06:15 --> 00:06:18 I, we were just talking about Gen Z and we were
00:06:18 --> 00:06:19 talking about like how they're going to be like
00:06:19 --> 00:06:21 the next, you know, I was like, can you imagine
00:06:21 --> 00:06:25 these guys like as like spec ops, you know, like
00:06:25 --> 00:06:27 like Navy SEALs or some shit. And then we just
00:06:27 --> 00:06:29 went off on this whole thing about, like, yeah,
00:06:29 --> 00:06:31 they're going to be pulling up in helicopters
00:06:31 --> 00:06:33 with, like, lights and, like, lasers. It's going
00:06:33 --> 00:06:35 to be, like, bumping, like, a pink rope. Yeah,
00:06:36 --> 00:06:38 yeah. Well, I have a theory, you know, because
00:06:38 --> 00:06:41 my kids played the damn Xbox all the time. And
00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 it's like, I wonder if the government is training
00:06:44 --> 00:06:46 them to be soldiers, because they're sitting
00:06:46 --> 00:06:48 in the room for hours killing people. It's like,
00:06:48 --> 00:06:50 they got really good at it. Yeah, they get really
00:06:50 --> 00:06:53 good at it. That was basically the wrap up of
00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 the story. Like we said, some people think that,
00:06:56 --> 00:06:57 you know, they're a bunch of pussies, but I'm
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 like, watch them actually be like fucking bad
00:07:00 --> 00:07:02 ass. They're like, watch them just straight like
00:07:02 --> 00:07:06 slay, you know, and like it's nothing, you know?
00:07:06 --> 00:07:08 It's like, they're just submerged in all this
00:07:08 --> 00:07:11 like technology and violence and it's just like
00:07:11 --> 00:07:14 given all at once. I've heard what comes out
00:07:14 --> 00:07:18 of their mouths when they're in those rooms or
00:07:18 --> 00:07:22 whatever. Jesus. Yeah, it's bad. It should be
00:07:22 --> 00:07:25 illegal. Yeah, suck my ass, you cock -sucking
00:07:25 --> 00:07:29 piece of shit. I have a joke about that. Yeah.
00:07:30 --> 00:07:33 In my joke, I say, and this actually happened,
00:07:33 --> 00:07:36 and my son and I laughed about this so hard the
00:07:36 --> 00:07:39 other night. When he was in middle school, he
00:07:39 --> 00:07:42 came downstairs and he was crying, and it was
00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 because his friends were being really mean to
00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 him on the Xbox. Oh, really? Which is really
00:07:47 --> 00:07:51 embarrassing. But I went up there and put his
00:07:51 --> 00:07:55 headset on. And I'm like, boys, someone's being
00:07:55 --> 00:08:00 mean on the game. And I just hear, what the fuck?
00:08:04 --> 00:08:07 And in my joke, you know, I talk about being
00:08:07 --> 00:08:10 a cool mom, which obviously that's not a cool,
00:08:10 --> 00:08:17 but my son is like, God, I was such a chud. I'm
00:08:17 --> 00:08:23 such a chud. Oh, man, I love that chud. I know.
00:08:24 --> 00:08:27 You're savvy with all the terms now. I am. Yeah.
00:08:28 --> 00:08:30 Well, that's because I work with those 20 -year
00:08:30 --> 00:08:33 -old girls. They taught me all the, you know.
00:08:33 --> 00:08:36 So you're like getting in there, right? Yeah.
00:08:36 --> 00:08:39 Oh my gosh. So when you were their age, how did
00:08:39 --> 00:08:42 you look at older people? Oh, I hated them. I
00:08:42 --> 00:08:45 was scared of old people. Right? Yeah, because
00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 I thought they were going to go off on me at
00:08:47 --> 00:08:50 any moment, you know? They probably would have.
00:08:50 --> 00:08:51 They probably would have, yeah. That's because
00:08:51 --> 00:08:53 it was a different generation. It was. Those
00:08:53 --> 00:08:55 would have been the, what are they, the greatest
00:08:55 --> 00:09:01 generation, the war people. Right, yeah. My uncle,
00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 one of my great uncles, he used to like, Like,
00:09:04 --> 00:09:05 I used to always get, like, the hairs in the
00:09:05 --> 00:09:07 back of my head standing up, because he would
00:09:07 --> 00:09:08 just walk by and just slap me in the back of
00:09:08 --> 00:09:11 the head for no fucking reason at all. But every
00:09:11 --> 00:09:14 time he came by, I was like, oh, you know, just
00:09:14 --> 00:09:16 waiting for it, and it never happened. You know?
00:09:16 --> 00:09:19 Yeah. They were the generation that would just
00:09:19 --> 00:09:21 straight up go, well, that's a stupid question.
00:09:21 --> 00:09:24 Why are you stupid? You know? They were mean.
00:09:24 --> 00:09:26 They were mean. They wouldn't explain nothing
00:09:26 --> 00:09:28 to you. No. because they would just be like,
00:09:29 --> 00:09:32 you need to learn it yourself. And it's like,
00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 I don't know what I don't know, asshole. Yeah,
00:09:34 --> 00:09:37 that made us even dumber. We didn't have tech,
00:09:37 --> 00:09:41 well, they probably didn't know either. That's
00:09:41 --> 00:09:42 probably why they didn't explain anything. Yeah,
00:09:43 --> 00:09:45 that's the cold hard truth. They had no fucking
00:09:45 --> 00:09:49 clue. No, no. Yeah, but nowadays, if I just randomly
00:09:49 --> 00:09:51 slap somebody in the back of the head, it's like
00:09:51 --> 00:09:55 jail. Just fucking jail. Right off the bat. They
00:09:55 --> 00:09:56 were like, you abuse children, you're going to
00:09:56 --> 00:09:58 jail. You can't even threaten anyone anymore.
00:09:58 --> 00:10:00 No, no. You can't even like, I'm going to punch
00:10:00 --> 00:10:04 you in the face. It's like, damn, dude. Yeah,
00:10:04 --> 00:10:07 you can't say shit. You can't do anything. You
00:10:07 --> 00:10:10 can't move, you know. You got to be careful.
00:10:10 --> 00:10:13 Be careful these days. Yeah, this new generation,
00:10:14 --> 00:10:16 like this, I guess like the brand new people,
00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 because I'm right there. This new generation
00:10:18 --> 00:10:22 of comedians and everything. And I'm one of them.
00:10:22 --> 00:10:25 I've only been in it like three years now. Yeah,
00:10:25 --> 00:10:29 but you're not a newbie anymore. No, no. There
00:10:29 --> 00:10:32 is kind of like an evolution. Yeah. And I'm starting
00:10:32 --> 00:10:36 to notice the evolution. And from talking with
00:10:36 --> 00:10:38 a lot of the other comedians who have been in
00:10:38 --> 00:10:43 for like a year, things like that, I kind of
00:10:43 --> 00:10:46 find myself telling them like, oh yeah, I remember
00:10:46 --> 00:10:49 when I used to do that. Yeah. And it's kind of
00:10:49 --> 00:10:53 like growing up. There's an evolution to it.
00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 But you always hear about these guys who drop
00:10:57 --> 00:11:00 everything, and they're living in their cars,
00:11:01 --> 00:11:05 and they're not dreaming responsibly. And I know
00:11:05 --> 00:11:09 we kind of touch base on almost like the addiction.
00:11:10 --> 00:11:12 It is an addiction. It's like, I mean, I've never
00:11:12 --> 00:11:15 done heroin, but I've heard it's a lot like heroin
00:11:15 --> 00:11:18 because when you get that first big laugh, like
00:11:18 --> 00:11:20 when you're in a great room and you get that
00:11:20 --> 00:11:24 serious, solid laugh and the adrenaline hits
00:11:24 --> 00:11:28 your body, you chase that. And then you want
00:11:28 --> 00:11:31 an even bigger laugh next time. And, you know,
00:11:31 --> 00:11:34 you just want that high and you just chase after
00:11:34 --> 00:11:36 it and you'll do anything to get it. You'll drive
00:11:36 --> 00:11:41 three hours for 10 minutes at the time. Um, and
00:11:41 --> 00:11:42 then on the other side of it, when you get the
00:11:42 --> 00:11:45 bomb, you know, you want to kill yourself. And
00:11:45 --> 00:11:49 bombs. But no, it's, it's the truth though. It
00:11:49 --> 00:11:51 is the truth. I actually, I'm fortunate enough
00:11:51 --> 00:11:54 to have had, I was filming my first big laugh.
00:11:55 --> 00:11:58 And so I got like to see like the look on my
00:11:58 --> 00:12:01 face and you could see like the pure shock. Like
00:12:01 --> 00:12:05 I was like, I was like, what the? You guys can
00:12:05 --> 00:12:11 do that? Do you remember your first big laugh?
00:12:11 --> 00:12:16 Actually, I do. I was on stage at ComedyWorks
00:12:16 --> 00:12:20 in Denver, which is an amazing room. This was
00:12:20 --> 00:12:25 like new talent sign up. I have it too. It's
00:12:25 --> 00:12:30 on my Instagram. Yeah, the big laugh and then
00:12:30 --> 00:12:35 I stop and I go, thank you. I feel that. I totally
00:12:35 --> 00:12:37 feel that. And I didn't even walk to my car.
00:12:37 --> 00:12:40 I just like floated. My feet did not touch the
00:12:40 --> 00:12:43 ground. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean. Because
00:12:43 --> 00:12:47 I'm pretty sure that night, because this is back
00:12:47 --> 00:12:49 when they had Dogwood. I don't know if you ever
00:12:49 --> 00:12:52 went to Dogwood. Just a little bar, but I used
00:12:52 --> 00:12:56 to love the mic that they did. And it was right
00:12:56 --> 00:13:00 around the corner from tiniest. Oh, okay. So
00:13:00 --> 00:13:02 you could sign up at Tiniest and you know you're
00:13:02 --> 00:13:04 going to be a while. So you can go do Dogwood
00:13:04 --> 00:13:07 and come back for your set in Tiniest. And it
00:13:07 --> 00:13:08 was like Thursdays, and that's what I used to
00:13:08 --> 00:13:11 do. Nice. And so it was a typical thing, signed
00:13:11 --> 00:13:13 up at Tiniest, went over to Dogwood, and I just
00:13:13 --> 00:13:16 said my joke and people laughed. And I was like,
00:13:17 --> 00:13:19 whoa, you know? Yeah. And then I go to Tiniest
00:13:19 --> 00:13:24 and no one laughed. Yeah, see, it depends on
00:13:24 --> 00:13:26 the room, the crowd. It depends on the room,
00:13:26 --> 00:13:30 yeah. So what do you think about people who are
00:13:30 --> 00:13:32 like, you know, changing or rearranging their
00:13:32 --> 00:13:35 lives around it? I remember when I first started
00:13:35 --> 00:13:39 comedy, an older comedian said, you know, comedy
00:13:39 --> 00:13:42 will ruin your life. And I've been thinking about
00:13:42 --> 00:13:45 that a lot lately. It's like, oh, God, you know,
00:13:45 --> 00:13:49 the things I've sacrificed in order to be a comedian,
00:13:49 --> 00:13:54 you know, just moving from Colorado to... to
00:13:54 --> 00:13:57 Austin and, you know, closing my business and,
00:13:58 --> 00:14:02 you know, it's not, I've cried more in the last
00:14:02 --> 00:14:05 year and a half from like, you know, my living,
00:14:06 --> 00:14:10 uncomfortable living situation than I have, you
00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 know, being a single mom for 16 years. It's like,
00:14:14 --> 00:14:16 it's not easy. And so that uncomfortable living
00:14:16 --> 00:14:19 situation is all centered around comedy? Well,
00:14:19 --> 00:14:22 I think, well, You know, I think back like if
00:14:22 --> 00:14:25 I didn't do comedy, I would have never moved
00:14:25 --> 00:14:28 to Austin. I wouldn't have had that addiction
00:14:28 --> 00:14:33 for it. I would have just found a good job and
00:14:33 --> 00:14:37 probably got married to some guy and, you know,
00:14:37 --> 00:14:39 I'd be baking casseroles right now somewhere.
00:14:40 --> 00:14:43 Yeah, it's a different life. Yeah, it is a different
00:14:43 --> 00:14:46 life, but it is worth it. You know, I'm not complaining.
00:14:46 --> 00:14:50 It's that... that time on the stage is worth
00:14:50 --> 00:14:54 all of that. It really is. Yeah. There is a thing
00:14:54 --> 00:14:58 about it. Even when you just set foot off the
00:14:58 --> 00:15:00 stage, you're already ready to go back up. Yeah.
00:15:01 --> 00:15:04 Despite even feeling drained. Yeah. You're wanting
00:15:04 --> 00:15:06 to go back up. Yeah. It's like, I want to do
00:15:06 --> 00:15:11 that again. Yeah. But that person that has a
00:15:11 --> 00:15:16 set right before you, I sit there really nervous
00:15:16 --> 00:15:18 going, why am I doing this? Why am I here? Why
00:15:18 --> 00:15:21 am I doing? And then you get on the stage and
00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 it all goes away. But yeah. Yeah. So you have
00:15:23 --> 00:15:26 that, like that initial like that. Oh shit. Oh
00:15:26 --> 00:15:29 shit. Oh shit. Yeah. Okay. That's good. That's
00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 good. Cause you've been doing it. How long have
00:15:31 --> 00:15:33 you been doing it? Five years. Five years. Yeah.
00:15:33 --> 00:15:36 So I'm not that far. ahead of you. Yeah. Always
00:15:36 --> 00:15:39 a learning process. It is. Yeah. When they say
00:15:39 --> 00:15:41 laughter is the best medicine, I always think
00:15:41 --> 00:15:43 like, yeah, it's just like being a doctor. There's
00:15:43 --> 00:15:46 a practice. Yes. You know, and it's a constant
00:15:46 --> 00:15:49 learning and things like that. It is. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:49 --> 00:15:51 So what are some of the biggest risks that you
00:15:51 --> 00:15:53 found from moving everything around for common?
00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 I realized that I don't like working and having
00:15:58 --> 00:16:01 a job anymore, but I really do need to have a
00:16:01 --> 00:16:07 job. Yeah. You know, so yeah, I am I Don't eat
00:16:07 --> 00:16:11 them all so I'm a hairstylist and you know once
00:16:11 --> 00:16:13 you've gotten on a few big stage and you've gotten
00:16:13 --> 00:16:16 Some great laughs and then you go to work the
00:16:16 --> 00:16:20 next day. It's and you walk in it's like why
00:16:20 --> 00:16:22 is the neighbor one applauding? And I just walked
00:16:22 --> 00:16:26 in the door, you know? Yeah. So no one's at work
00:16:26 --> 00:16:28 has ever been like, oh, I saw you last night
00:16:28 --> 00:16:31 on like Kill Tony or anything? No. No. Yeah.
00:16:31 --> 00:16:35 Yeah. It's hard to be, you know, treated like
00:16:35 --> 00:16:41 an employee and a servant after you've had, you
00:16:41 --> 00:16:44 know, people cheering for you. It's like, you
00:16:44 --> 00:16:50 know, so yeah. And that's just my ego. Well,
00:16:50 --> 00:16:52 yeah, I get it I get it but there is a certain
00:16:52 --> 00:16:54 level of ego because you put a lot of work into
00:16:54 --> 00:16:56 it Yeah, and that's where the ego I think comes
00:16:56 --> 00:16:58 from Yeah, so for me what I do is like, you know,
00:16:59 --> 00:17:00 whenever I have a great set or something I'll
00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 call my brother or my mom or something like that.
00:17:02 --> 00:17:05 Who do you call? Like who do you sons? Yeah.
00:17:05 --> 00:17:09 Yeah, they love that huh? They do. Yeah. Yeah,
00:17:09 --> 00:17:13 they they seem to anyways they you know Yeah.
00:17:14 --> 00:17:15 Yeah. Well, what are your conversations like
00:17:15 --> 00:17:21 after a good set? Do you just unload on them?
00:17:22 --> 00:17:25 I do. Yeah. That's great, though. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:25 --> 00:17:27 And then I always stop myself like, I'm sorry.
00:17:27 --> 00:17:29 All I'd ever talk about with you is comedy. I'm
00:17:29 --> 00:17:32 sorry. How's it going? How's your girlfriend?
00:17:33 --> 00:17:35 I do the same thing. I literally do the same
00:17:35 --> 00:17:37 thing. I'll be talking for like 20 minutes, just
00:17:37 --> 00:17:39 telling my mom about the podcast or, you know,
00:17:39 --> 00:17:41 just if I did a set and I'll just tell her about
00:17:41 --> 00:17:42 it and I'll be like, oh, wait, I'm sorry. I'm
00:17:42 --> 00:17:45 sorry. How are you, mom? How are you doing? I
00:17:45 --> 00:17:48 love you very much. I'm sorry I didn't ask. I
00:17:48 --> 00:17:50 said it. We're addicts. Yeah, yeah. Sorry about
00:17:50 --> 00:17:53 that. How's the lupus? Is the lupus going well?
00:17:53 --> 00:17:57 Oh, yeah. But anyways. Yeah, right? Exactly.
00:17:58 --> 00:18:01 You know, but no, it's true. There is a level
00:18:01 --> 00:18:04 of addiction to comedy. You know, it is just
00:18:04 --> 00:18:07 something like almost, I don't know if you feel
00:18:07 --> 00:18:09 the same way, but it's almost like a masochism
00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 in a way. Oh, it is. You know, it's because you
00:18:11 --> 00:18:13 are getting punished. Most of the time. Yeah.
00:18:14 --> 00:18:16 I mean, yeah. And I don't know how many heckle
00:18:16 --> 00:18:20 mics and joke roast mics you've done, but...
00:18:20 --> 00:18:21 I've never done really any of those. You haven't?
00:18:22 --> 00:18:26 Yeah. I did the banana phone and afterwards I
00:18:26 --> 00:18:29 was thinking, it's like, why do we do that? Yeah.
00:18:29 --> 00:18:33 Why did I just stand on a stage to have people
00:18:33 --> 00:18:37 bling insults at me? Like, why did I do that?
00:18:37 --> 00:18:40 I remember I was there for that. Because I was
00:18:40 --> 00:18:41 watching that. And the only thing I kept thinking
00:18:41 --> 00:18:45 of during that time is, where's the good jokes?
00:18:45 --> 00:18:47 Because it was all the same shit. It was all
00:18:47 --> 00:18:52 the same. Yeah. Yeah, OK, I'm old. Right. Cougar
00:18:52 --> 00:18:54 shit. Yeah, I already heard it a million times.
00:18:55 --> 00:18:58 Yeah. There was one funny one. I mean, someone
00:18:58 --> 00:19:02 said I look like handsome Squidward. And so I
00:19:02 --> 00:19:04 had to look him up and I'm like, okay, I get
00:19:04 --> 00:19:09 it. I get it. Like, I get it. But I'm like, at
00:19:09 --> 00:19:12 the same time I don't. It's the jaw. I don't
00:19:12 --> 00:19:15 know. Right? It's like something. It's just some
00:19:15 --> 00:19:19 accented features there. But so like what kind
00:19:19 --> 00:19:23 of other avenues do you go down to explore as
00:19:23 --> 00:19:28 a comedian? Well, you know, I've started dipping
00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 my toe in producing shows which really yeah,
00:19:31 --> 00:19:35 I can't really brag about too much yet because
00:19:35 --> 00:19:39 I like I did a Show in Iowa in my hometown and
00:19:39 --> 00:19:43 that was so much fun. Oh nice. Yeah, it was uh,
00:19:44 --> 00:19:46 it was a big theater It was like a 500 seat theater
00:19:46 --> 00:19:51 and I got Charlie Mack to come and oh nice and
00:19:51 --> 00:19:54 Sancho to come, you know, I tried to pick comedians
00:19:54 --> 00:19:57 that anyone who watches Kill Tony would know
00:19:57 --> 00:20:02 who they were. And it was so fun. The problem
00:20:02 --> 00:20:07 was is that there was a country music concert
00:20:07 --> 00:20:11 the next town over. So it wasn't a huge... It
00:20:11 --> 00:20:13 was dead. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't a huge ticket
00:20:13 --> 00:20:17 seller. But I still had so much fun. It's like,
00:20:17 --> 00:20:21 I did this. I put this on. That sounds so cool.
00:20:21 --> 00:20:24 So I want to do more of that. I want to take
00:20:24 --> 00:20:28 comedians from Austin and bring them to the Midwest.
00:20:31 --> 00:20:34 These mid -sized towns in the Midwest don't have
00:20:34 --> 00:20:39 a lot of live comedy. So it's kind of an untapped
00:20:39 --> 00:20:42 market there. And they're such good audiences.
00:20:43 --> 00:20:45 They love it. They probably like really want
00:20:45 --> 00:20:48 that kind of release, you know, that just like
00:20:48 --> 00:20:50 laughter, the release of laughter. Yeah, you
00:20:50 --> 00:20:53 know, you do comedy in a large city like, especially
00:20:53 --> 00:20:55 Austin, where there's, you know, a comedy show
00:20:55 --> 00:20:59 on every corner. The audiences are kind of like,
00:20:59 --> 00:21:02 okay, make me laugh, funny boy, you know, whereas
00:21:02 --> 00:21:07 you go to a town where there hasn't been a live
00:21:07 --> 00:21:10 comedy show there ever. They're so excited. Yeah.
00:21:11 --> 00:21:13 Which audience would you rather perform in front
00:21:13 --> 00:21:15 of? I'd rather be in front of these people that
00:21:15 --> 00:21:17 are just hungry for comedy. Yeah, just super
00:21:17 --> 00:21:20 enthusiastic and ready to laugh. That seems like
00:21:20 --> 00:21:25 a whole winning thing. Yeah. A lot of these places,
00:21:25 --> 00:21:27 even a lot of these bigger cities that are coming
00:21:27 --> 00:21:32 up. with comedy as a new thing seem to be more
00:21:32 --> 00:21:36 like the crowd is like, okay, impress me. It
00:21:36 --> 00:21:39 has to impress me. So they come in there with
00:21:39 --> 00:21:42 an expectation that's almost higher. Have you
00:21:42 --> 00:21:46 observed that as well? I have. Back when I was
00:21:46 --> 00:21:48 touring more with Moms Unhinged, I remember one
00:21:48 --> 00:21:53 time we did Kansas and we went to Topeka, which
00:21:53 --> 00:21:57 is a smaller town and the audience was amazing.
00:21:58 --> 00:22:01 Then the next night we went to Kansas City and
00:22:01 --> 00:22:04 it was it was that they're like, you know, it's
00:22:04 --> 00:22:07 comedy whatever right? Oh, you didn't really
00:22:07 --> 00:22:10 you didn't really make me laugh the way I wanted
00:22:10 --> 00:22:14 to right? You're not like Shane Gillis Yeah,
00:22:15 --> 00:22:17 yeah, you know this tickets were only ten bucks
00:22:17 --> 00:22:19 exactly. Yeah, but it's the truth though It is
00:22:19 --> 00:22:22 kind of like, you know, they just they are like
00:22:22 --> 00:22:25 that and I noticed it a lot in places that are
00:22:25 --> 00:22:29 growing You know, it's like cuz I think that
00:22:29 --> 00:22:34 they're sort of How do you say like Yeah, okay,
00:22:34 --> 00:22:35 you know how like you get into something new
00:22:35 --> 00:22:38 and you just obsess over it for a little while
00:22:38 --> 00:22:41 You know, I feel like a city will go through
00:22:41 --> 00:22:44 that when they grow in comedy Yeah, so now all
00:22:44 --> 00:22:46 these comedy clubs are open and then the people
00:22:46 --> 00:22:48 will go Yeah, and they'll just keep going and
00:22:48 --> 00:22:50 going and going and not realizing that they're
00:22:50 --> 00:22:53 like kind of yeah, you know They're turning into
00:22:53 --> 00:22:55 that. Yeah, and it makes it harder on you as
00:22:55 --> 00:22:57 a comedian because now you have to be really
00:22:57 --> 00:23:00 good Yes, you know you have to be like on yeah,
00:23:00 --> 00:23:03 you know well and the thing is is that What I've
00:23:03 --> 00:23:06 noticed too is you know, there there are some
00:23:06 --> 00:23:09 Some terrible comedians who will get up there
00:23:09 --> 00:23:12 and then I always worry that the audience thinks
00:23:12 --> 00:23:16 oh Is this what comedy is right? No. Oh, yeah
00:23:16 --> 00:23:19 Yeah, bring your a game if you are actually getting
00:23:19 --> 00:23:22 in front of real people Yeah, exactly. So they'll
00:23:22 --> 00:23:25 come back to another show in the future. Yeah.
00:23:25 --> 00:23:28 So being like kind of like, I guess, like an
00:23:28 --> 00:23:31 older and age comedian, you know, like, what's
00:23:31 --> 00:23:35 your perspective on this, you know, this younger
00:23:35 --> 00:23:40 kind of community? Yeah. Well, you know, I started
00:23:40 --> 00:23:45 comedy at 50. And I wish I would have started
00:23:45 --> 00:23:49 in my 20s. I had no idea you could do comedy
00:23:49 --> 00:23:55 back then. Um, but I feel because I'm older and
00:23:55 --> 00:23:57 I've, you know, I've been married and divorced
00:23:57 --> 00:24:00 and I've been a single mom and I've had a career
00:24:00 --> 00:24:03 and, you know, I've had parent deaths and, you
00:24:03 --> 00:24:05 know, you know, lots of shit happened in my life.
00:24:05 --> 00:24:10 I feel like my well of, um, comedy material is
00:24:10 --> 00:24:14 so much deeper than, um, you know, this guy who's
00:24:14 --> 00:24:18 talking about jacking off. Yeah. Yeah. The more
00:24:18 --> 00:24:22 life experience. Yeah. And there is something
00:24:22 --> 00:24:27 to that. Do you have any kind of, I think, serious
00:24:27 --> 00:24:31 drawbacks, I guess, to being that way? Yeah.
00:24:33 --> 00:24:41 I always feel really uncomfortable at the mics
00:24:41 --> 00:24:46 because everyone's just... young and cool, and
00:24:46 --> 00:24:48 I always feel like I'm standing in the corner
00:24:48 --> 00:24:52 of my purse with my polyester, you know, pantsuit,
00:24:52 --> 00:24:57 like, okay, you kids. Yeah, so do you think that
00:24:57 --> 00:25:01 you do that to yourself? I totally do. Yeah,
00:25:01 --> 00:25:04 I totally do. Yeah, it's just a mindset, I guess.
00:25:04 --> 00:25:08 Yeah, it's a mindset, but they're, like, you
00:25:08 --> 00:25:10 know, they've been pretty accepting of you. Yeah,
00:25:10 --> 00:25:15 yeah. When I, you know, and I'm, pretty introverted.
00:25:15 --> 00:25:18 I'm actually a pretty shy person. So, and I think
00:25:18 --> 00:25:20 most comedians are, I mean, we're all awkward.
00:25:22 --> 00:25:24 So, you know, going up and making small talk
00:25:24 --> 00:25:28 with someone, I, you know, and what do I make
00:25:28 --> 00:25:33 small talk, you know, to a 23 -year -old kid?
00:25:33 --> 00:25:37 I don't know. I guess, you know, I just. Yeah,
00:25:37 --> 00:25:39 I guess it's just kind of like, you know, putting
00:25:39 --> 00:25:41 yourself back in their shoes and just being like,
00:25:41 --> 00:25:45 where were you at back then? And I guess it's
00:25:45 --> 00:25:47 relating to them on that level, I suppose. Because
00:25:47 --> 00:25:49 I know what you mean, though. Because there's
00:25:49 --> 00:25:53 a lot of younger comedians who, I guess, they'll
00:25:53 --> 00:25:57 talk to me or they'll ask me a lot of questions.
00:25:58 --> 00:26:00 And I try to tell them, I'm like, I'm not a guru
00:26:00 --> 00:26:04 in this, man. I don't know. Some of them I've
00:26:04 --> 00:26:06 met have been in it a long time, but just because
00:26:06 --> 00:26:08 of my age, because I'm just that much older than
00:26:08 --> 00:26:11 they are, they tend to. Just assume that you're,
00:26:12 --> 00:26:14 yeah. Just assume. Do you experience anything
00:26:14 --> 00:26:18 like that? A little, but not really. I'm a woman,
00:26:18 --> 00:26:21 so I don't think I get it as much. That's been
00:26:21 --> 00:26:26 said on here quite a bit. Women in comedy, they
00:26:26 --> 00:26:30 have a much different perspective than the male
00:26:30 --> 00:26:32 community and everything. For example, nobody
00:26:32 --> 00:26:34 would ever call me whatever the male equivalent
00:26:34 --> 00:26:38 of a cougar is. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Nobody
00:26:38 --> 00:26:42 ever say that about me. And I made the mistake
00:26:42 --> 00:26:45 of my last Kill Tony appearance. I made the mistake
00:26:45 --> 00:26:50 of screen recording the chat that happens as
00:26:50 --> 00:26:53 the episode drops when I got up there. And that's
00:26:53 --> 00:26:57 where all the meanest things are said. And as
00:26:57 --> 00:27:02 soon as I appeared on the stage, it was... Gremlin
00:27:02 --> 00:27:06 gargoyle look at her arms, you know, she really
00:27:06 --> 00:27:09 yeah just like tearing my physical appearance
00:27:09 --> 00:27:14 apart and They wouldn't do that to a man. So
00:27:14 --> 00:27:16 unless he really looked weird. I mean, I don't
00:27:16 --> 00:27:22 maybe I look weird but you know just Yeah, that's
00:27:22 --> 00:27:24 terrible. And it's also very not true, by the
00:27:24 --> 00:27:26 way, just letting you know. Not a gremlin or
00:27:26 --> 00:27:29 a gargoyle. No, yeah, I'd be like, it'd be kind
00:27:29 --> 00:27:30 of weird, but I'd be like, can I see your wings?
00:27:32 --> 00:27:35 I'm like, yeah, I just got off the tower, the
00:27:35 --> 00:27:38 bell tower there too, you know. No, it is kind
00:27:38 --> 00:27:41 of ridiculous, but it has its certain challenges.
00:27:41 --> 00:27:43 Like you have like a little bit more stacked
00:27:43 --> 00:27:46 against you. Yeah, yeah. I have to look fuckable,
00:27:47 --> 00:27:49 I guess. I don't know. I mean, but men don't
00:27:49 --> 00:27:53 have to, so. No, we all look the same. We got
00:27:53 --> 00:27:56 our shirts on and pants, and that's it. We go.
00:27:56 --> 00:27:59 But women, it's like it is a different thing.
00:27:59 --> 00:28:02 And the reason why I say that is because enough
00:28:02 --> 00:28:04 women have been on here and they all said the
00:28:04 --> 00:28:08 same thing. It seems like, you know, just it's
00:28:08 --> 00:28:10 a challenge. It's challenging, which is unfortunate.
00:28:10 --> 00:28:12 It shouldn't be, you know, because this is an
00:28:12 --> 00:28:15 art form. Right. But, you know, you have to have
00:28:15 --> 00:28:17 thick skin. You're going to do this. It's just
00:28:17 --> 00:28:20 part of it. Does those kind of challenges affect
00:28:20 --> 00:28:27 your goals in comedy? Not, not really. You know,
00:28:27 --> 00:28:31 I think the thing that you have to There are
00:28:31 --> 00:28:34 so many layers to becoming a good comedian. Of
00:28:34 --> 00:28:38 course, you have to know how joke structure works,
00:28:38 --> 00:28:44 and timing, and all of your stage presence. But
00:28:44 --> 00:28:46 then the next layer to that is you have to know
00:28:46 --> 00:28:49 what your persona is. I have this filter system
00:28:49 --> 00:28:52 where I start with a really crappy cheap spiral
00:28:52 --> 00:28:55 notebook, and that's where I start writing down
00:28:55 --> 00:29:01 all my ideas. transfer that to my next notebook,
00:29:01 --> 00:29:04 which is a little nicer. Um, and, you know, and
00:29:04 --> 00:29:07 I cut all the, all the garbage out. And then,
00:29:08 --> 00:29:11 and then I, you know, I have about five notebooks
00:29:11 --> 00:29:13 that I just keep transferring the same joke to
00:29:13 --> 00:29:17 until it's show worthy. It's in a little notebook
00:29:17 --> 00:29:20 that I can take with me. That way it's just,
00:29:20 --> 00:29:23 cause you know, with, with jokes, you need to
00:29:23 --> 00:29:26 cut out all the fat. So it's like, I just filter
00:29:26 --> 00:29:29 it down. Instead of and I started doing that
00:29:29 --> 00:29:31 because I didn't want to like write my my crappy
00:29:31 --> 00:29:35 ideas in my nice notebook So yeah, just kind
00:29:35 --> 00:29:38 of yeah, and I love that I love that like that
00:29:38 --> 00:29:40 process because I remember telling you that you
00:29:40 --> 00:29:42 know I've got a I got a bunch of notebooks lying
00:29:42 --> 00:29:45 around like all over the place and I always Rewrite
00:29:45 --> 00:29:47 my jokes in whatever notebook I happen to be
00:29:47 --> 00:29:49 working on that time. So I really love it. So
00:29:49 --> 00:29:52 do you have a Like a stage book that you just
00:29:52 --> 00:29:54 like are this is my notebook make it to the stage.
00:29:54 --> 00:29:57 Yes Yeah, and it's it's like this big. Yeah,
00:29:57 --> 00:30:00 and and I actually went on and Amazon and got
00:30:00 --> 00:30:04 a pack of like No books that big and you know,
00:30:04 --> 00:30:06 and they're all different colors and I you know
00:30:06 --> 00:30:08 at first when I got him I was like I'm gonna
00:30:08 --> 00:30:10 write the month on it, you know, so I know that
00:30:10 --> 00:30:13 was all organized but yeah, that's gone out the
00:30:13 --> 00:30:15 window, but at least I have like something small
00:30:15 --> 00:30:19 enough that I can just Yeah. Do you also buy
00:30:19 --> 00:30:22 pens, too? Because I buy like pens that I like
00:30:22 --> 00:30:24 to write. Yes. Yeah? Yeah, like this is one of
00:30:24 --> 00:30:27 them, you know? Yeah, nice one. Nice pen. Just
00:30:27 --> 00:30:29 basic black pen, but it's like, it's got like
00:30:29 --> 00:30:31 the, you know, it just writes really nice, you
00:30:31 --> 00:30:33 know? So do you do that, too, with your novels?
00:30:33 --> 00:30:37 I do. Well, I have pens from like certain comedy
00:30:37 --> 00:30:40 clubs that I write with, too. And that just makes
00:30:40 --> 00:30:43 me feel special. Like I have a couple pens from
00:30:43 --> 00:30:47 the Comedy Works in Denver. And I'm like, I'm
00:30:47 --> 00:30:50 writing comedy with my comedy pen. That is really
00:30:50 --> 00:30:52 cool. Yeah. That's like an immersive experience.
00:30:52 --> 00:30:55 Yeah, yeah. I'm going to be really sad when those
00:30:55 --> 00:30:57 dry out. You should be able to just get like
00:30:57 --> 00:30:59 a little... A cartridge for it, I guess, huh?
00:30:59 --> 00:31:02 Oh, I probably could. You think? Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:02 --> 00:31:06 I don't know. Yeah. We'll call Bic. Hey, Bic.
00:31:06 --> 00:31:09 Or Pilot. Yeah. Or I could go back to the Comedy
00:31:09 --> 00:31:11 Works in Denver and just steal more pins, I guess.
00:31:11 --> 00:31:17 Yeah. There you go. So what needs to happen for
00:31:17 --> 00:31:19 you to get your comedic gears going for it to
00:31:19 --> 00:31:22 make a notebook, period? You know, that's so
00:31:22 --> 00:31:26 funny because I... I try to force myself to sit
00:31:26 --> 00:31:30 down and write, and I have way too much ADHD
00:31:30 --> 00:31:34 to do that. But I've noticed, like, if I'm cooking
00:31:34 --> 00:31:37 or cleaning or, you know, doing anything else,
00:31:37 --> 00:31:41 if I'm also working a joke out, it just comes
00:31:41 --> 00:31:43 like that. It just, you know, and I'm like, oh,
00:31:44 --> 00:31:46 that's good. And I walk over to the counter and
00:31:46 --> 00:31:49 write down what I was just thinking. Yeah. Oh,
00:31:49 --> 00:31:51 this is making me remember what we were talking
00:31:51 --> 00:31:54 about before. So to the listeners, we had a little
00:31:54 --> 00:31:57 technical difficulty. So there's a clip. But
00:31:57 --> 00:31:59 anyway, we were talking about before, because
00:31:59 --> 00:32:01 you got into conversations. Oh, yeah. You were
00:32:01 --> 00:32:04 speaking about the natural state of conversations
00:32:04 --> 00:32:09 and everything. And then you said that you got
00:32:09 --> 00:32:15 it from work, right? Yeah. Well, you were saying
00:32:15 --> 00:32:18 that you'll work out a joke with a friend and
00:32:18 --> 00:32:23 like slip different jokes into the conversation.
00:32:23 --> 00:32:27 And I do that when I'm doing hair too. And the
00:32:27 --> 00:32:31 good thing about it is you get to hear what their
00:32:31 --> 00:32:35 response is. And that either gives you a good
00:32:35 --> 00:32:38 tagline if they're a funny person or it tells
00:32:38 --> 00:32:40 you like what the audience would probably be
00:32:40 --> 00:32:44 thinking. when you told that joke. Yeah. And
00:32:44 --> 00:32:47 it's kind of nice to know what they would be
00:32:47 --> 00:32:49 thinking, because then you can say the opposite
00:32:49 --> 00:32:53 and make it funny. Yeah. Surprise them. Oh, yeah.
00:32:53 --> 00:32:55 And that's the way I like to do it, because it's
00:32:55 --> 00:32:57 so engaging, you know? But you were speaking
00:32:57 --> 00:33:00 a second ago, like, about opening up just a book
00:33:00 --> 00:33:02 and sitting there and just trying to have a discipline
00:33:02 --> 00:33:04 of writing, and I can't do that either. Yeah.
00:33:04 --> 00:33:06 You know, I have such a hard time with doing
00:33:06 --> 00:33:08 that. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, writer's block. Yeah,
00:33:08 --> 00:33:11 immediately. Yeah. You know, I can't like, I
00:33:11 --> 00:33:13 can't pull from anywhere because of that. Yeah.
00:33:14 --> 00:33:16 You know, I almost don't even know like, I just,
00:33:16 --> 00:33:18 I just like, oh, what the fuck? What do I write
00:33:18 --> 00:33:21 about? I got this whole life ahead of you and
00:33:21 --> 00:33:22 you're like, what do I write about? You know,
00:33:22 --> 00:33:24 it's, it's like, uh, when you're in the shower,
00:33:25 --> 00:33:27 you, you know, the best ideas come or, you know,
00:33:27 --> 00:33:31 it's like your mind is not forcing itself. It's
00:33:31 --> 00:33:34 starting to cramp. Yeah. That's so funny. You
00:33:34 --> 00:33:36 mentioned the shower thing, cause I just learned
00:33:36 --> 00:33:39 like what shower thoughts were. Because for the
00:33:39 --> 00:33:40 longest time I was like, what the fuck's that?
00:33:41 --> 00:33:43 Like, I'd never heard that. But I guess it's
00:33:43 --> 00:33:46 like little epiphanies that will happen. Have
00:33:46 --> 00:33:48 you had like any cool shower thoughts lately?
00:33:49 --> 00:33:52 None come to mind. But yeah, I've heard it's
00:33:52 --> 00:33:55 because of the water. I mean, the white noise
00:33:55 --> 00:33:59 probably and you're distracted. But yeah, water
00:33:59 --> 00:34:04 has some sort of energetic thing to it. Oh, no
00:34:04 --> 00:34:07 way. I didn't know there was a thing. Are you
00:34:07 --> 00:34:09 like one of those like crystals people? I'm a
00:34:09 --> 00:34:11 little woo woo. I am. Little woo woo? Yeah. No,
00:34:11 --> 00:34:14 that's good though. That's good. So a buddy of
00:34:14 --> 00:34:16 mine like, because we just went on like this
00:34:16 --> 00:34:18 long hike and a buddy of mine was like, hey,
00:34:18 --> 00:34:21 just bring me back a rock, right? And then went
00:34:21 --> 00:34:23 and stayed in like this nice little like refuge
00:34:23 --> 00:34:26 place. We met this African guy and he had like
00:34:26 --> 00:34:28 these crazy rocks, and I'm not like a rock guy,
00:34:29 --> 00:34:32 but I was like, I gotta have those rocks. Do
00:34:32 --> 00:34:34 you feel like they have like healing powers and
00:34:34 --> 00:34:37 all that good stuff? You mean like crystals or?
00:34:37 --> 00:34:43 Yeah. I will use anything that I can. My algorithm
00:34:43 --> 00:34:47 on Instagram and TikTok is starting to get a
00:34:47 --> 00:34:51 little witchy. Okay, hell yeah. Anytime there's
00:34:51 --> 00:34:54 a woman on there talking about a spell for success
00:34:54 --> 00:34:57 or so. Yeah, I have little jars around my apartment
00:34:57 --> 00:35:01 that have like rice and salt and then a name
00:35:01 --> 00:35:04 inside of it and a little cinnamon on top of
00:35:04 --> 00:35:07 it. Oh, yeah. That's some voodoo right there.
00:35:07 --> 00:35:10 Yeah, a little voodoo. Is that voodoo that you
00:35:10 --> 00:35:15 do? Yeah. I grew up with that. My mom, when we
00:35:15 --> 00:35:17 got a fever, she used to put onions in our salads.
00:35:18 --> 00:35:25 Huh? Yeah, I was like... Did it work? No. You
00:35:25 --> 00:35:26 probably would have worked if you would have
00:35:26 --> 00:35:27 believed it worked. Maybe. I felt like she was
00:35:27 --> 00:35:30 just marinating us. She was just trying to get
00:35:30 --> 00:35:33 us good so she could throw us in the pot. You're
00:35:33 --> 00:35:40 like Bugs Bunny. Awesome, Papa. Exactly. We had
00:35:40 --> 00:35:43 weird things like that that we used to do and
00:35:43 --> 00:35:46 everything. I keep trying to pull stuff like
00:35:46 --> 00:35:51 that into my comedy, but I'm like, Really sometimes
00:35:51 --> 00:35:52 I just can't I just can't sit down and write
00:35:52 --> 00:35:56 it. I have to it has to come like a conversation
00:35:56 --> 00:35:58 Yeah, it does. It's yeah, it's funny because
00:35:58 --> 00:36:00 yeah, you can come up with a premise and it's
00:36:00 --> 00:36:05 like how do I get this into a joke? Yeah, can't
00:36:05 --> 00:36:07 force it. It's so hard to force it. Mm -hmm.
00:36:07 --> 00:36:09 Are there any jokes that work better for you
00:36:09 --> 00:36:14 than others? Um, you mean like Topics or sure.
00:36:14 --> 00:36:17 Yeah topics, you know it I feel like there's
00:36:17 --> 00:36:20 an evolution when you first start doing comedy,
00:36:21 --> 00:36:25 everybody starts off dirty. And the sex jokes
00:36:25 --> 00:36:30 are so easy to write. And, you know, most of
00:36:30 --> 00:36:33 my material for the past couple of years have
00:36:33 --> 00:36:39 been menopause and, you know, chasing young men
00:36:39 --> 00:36:43 and, you know, just crap like that. And it's
00:36:43 --> 00:36:46 like, I need to start elevating a little bit
00:36:46 --> 00:36:53 more. Yeah. To what? Actually, I have a lot of
00:36:53 --> 00:36:55 interesting things happening in my family right
00:36:55 --> 00:37:03 now. My dad is 86 and he had a kid when he was
00:37:03 --> 00:37:06 60. So I have a brother that's 30 years younger
00:37:06 --> 00:37:10 than me. No way. And my dad's wife was four years
00:37:10 --> 00:37:16 older than me and she just died. I've been going
00:37:16 --> 00:37:19 back to Iowa and you know helping them, you know
00:37:19 --> 00:37:23 cleaning their house and just You know being
00:37:23 --> 00:37:26 there for my dad, which I haven't we haven't
00:37:26 --> 00:37:30 had a great relationship for 26 years because
00:37:30 --> 00:37:34 he had another family and yeah So anyways, I've
00:37:34 --> 00:37:36 been wanting to like write material around that
00:37:36 --> 00:37:42 because I'm sure I'm not the only Person who's
00:37:42 --> 00:37:45 you know, I'm a woman in my 50s with daddy issues.
00:37:45 --> 00:37:48 There's got to be something funny there Oh, yeah,
00:37:48 --> 00:37:50 and you know and the whole you know being getting
00:37:50 --> 00:37:53 to the age where you're taking care of your parents
00:37:53 --> 00:37:58 and so I know there's stuff there to Write about.
00:37:58 --> 00:38:00 Oh, absolutely. Yeah, like, you know having daddy
00:38:00 --> 00:38:06 issues as a mommy Daddy issues, but it's like
00:38:06 --> 00:38:09 I feel like I'm healing my daddy issues finally,
00:38:09 --> 00:38:15 so Yeah. In sort of the same realm of family,
00:38:16 --> 00:38:18 I started writing about my mom because she had
00:38:18 --> 00:38:23 me at a young age. I almost went into a level
00:38:23 --> 00:38:26 of absurdity because I tried to go to the high
00:38:26 --> 00:38:30 school that she went to. What I wrote was I was
00:38:30 --> 00:38:32 like, oh yeah, my mom. had me at 17. She was
00:38:32 --> 00:38:34 real young. I actually tried to go to the same
00:38:34 --> 00:38:36 school, or actually went to the same school that
00:38:36 --> 00:38:39 she did. We were in the same grade. She cared
00:38:39 --> 00:38:41 a lot about my grades because she was cheating
00:38:41 --> 00:38:45 off my papers. Yeah, there's something there.
00:38:45 --> 00:38:47 There's a lot there, yeah. Yeah, you're just
00:38:47 --> 00:38:49 kind of like, you're just kind of just throwing
00:38:49 --> 00:38:52 ideas, just like, whatever, like, you know, just
00:38:52 --> 00:38:55 fly fishing. Yeah, and it's so interesting how
00:38:55 --> 00:38:58 jokes evolve over time. You know, I'll write
00:38:58 --> 00:39:02 a joke and It's usually after a show and I'm
00:39:02 --> 00:39:06 driving home, I think about how I could write
00:39:06 --> 00:39:10 that joke better. And then it just evolves. Yeah.
00:39:10 --> 00:39:12 It is the performance thing where you get up
00:39:12 --> 00:39:15 there and you think and like, you know, you just
00:39:15 --> 00:39:17 kind of like play it out. You just see the reaction
00:39:17 --> 00:39:19 and you're able to almost jot notes, like show
00:39:19 --> 00:39:21 notes. Yeah. You know, you ever do anything like
00:39:21 --> 00:39:23 that? Like you ever actually write it down? You
00:39:23 --> 00:39:26 know, I'm terrible. You know, everyone says you're
00:39:26 --> 00:39:29 supposed to record your sets and watch them back.
00:39:29 --> 00:39:35 I never do. But I do just think about them on
00:39:35 --> 00:39:37 the way home and then I get home and, you know,
00:39:37 --> 00:39:42 rewrite the joke or... Yeah. I have recorded
00:39:42 --> 00:39:45 mine, you know, to try to do the social media
00:39:45 --> 00:39:48 thing, but I feel like that's really just me
00:39:48 --> 00:39:52 recording mediocre stuff. It's not very funny.
00:39:52 --> 00:39:56 You're watching me work. on things, you know?
00:39:56 --> 00:39:58 And I'm like, you're not gonna get it. You're
00:39:58 --> 00:40:01 not gonna see, but what you are gonna see is
00:40:01 --> 00:40:05 like the grind, you know, of getting up there
00:40:05 --> 00:40:07 and working on a joke. I actually had a friend
00:40:07 --> 00:40:11 send me this reel once, and I wish I could remember
00:40:11 --> 00:40:15 who the comedian was, but he put together a compilation
00:40:15 --> 00:40:22 of the same joke being rewritten. from its origin
00:40:22 --> 00:40:26 all the way until it was perfect. And like every
00:40:26 --> 00:40:28 time he told it, you know, it was probably a
00:40:28 --> 00:40:31 three minute video. But it was just amazing to
00:40:31 --> 00:40:34 watch, like the same joke get better and better
00:40:34 --> 00:40:36 throughout time. That sounds like Mark Normand.
00:40:36 --> 00:40:39 Was it him? That sounds like, yeah, because I
00:40:39 --> 00:40:42 remember he did that. He put one out like that.
00:40:42 --> 00:40:44 Yeah, I think you're right. I think it was. And
00:40:44 --> 00:40:47 he's great. You know, he's great. He's just,
00:40:48 --> 00:40:50 he's from New Orleans too. That's where I'm from.
00:40:51 --> 00:40:52 And so he's from New Orleans too. And so it's
00:40:52 --> 00:40:55 kind of cool to see somebody from our neck of
00:40:55 --> 00:40:58 the woods out there doing his thing. But I also,
00:40:58 --> 00:41:01 I know that Jeff Foxworthy also did something
00:41:01 --> 00:41:04 similar to that too. He was like, yeah, I'm gonna
00:41:04 --> 00:41:06 put it out there. I'm gonna show everybody what
00:41:06 --> 00:41:09 it takes to just write down a joke from thought
00:41:09 --> 00:41:12 to stage. You know. That's a pretty good impression.
00:41:13 --> 00:41:16 Whatever happened to him? Is he around or? I
00:41:16 --> 00:41:17 think so. I think he's still doing things. Is
00:41:17 --> 00:41:19 he? You know, but I think it's just obviously
00:41:19 --> 00:41:22 like much smaller, you know, scale bit. Old.
00:41:22 --> 00:41:25 But yeah, he, I mean, it just, I mean, he's great.
00:41:26 --> 00:41:29 You know, what was it the, you know, so I know
00:41:29 --> 00:41:31 Billy, what was the, here's your sign, but Jeff
00:41:31 --> 00:41:34 Foxworthy was, he might be a redneck. Yes. Yeah.
00:41:34 --> 00:41:36 You know, and those jokes were so fun. They were.
00:41:36 --> 00:41:38 I mean, that was pretty brilliant for the time.
00:41:39 --> 00:41:42 Yeah, it really was. In the original, wait, it
00:41:42 --> 00:41:46 was like the kings of comedy, but they had the,
00:41:47 --> 00:41:50 what was it? You know, Ron White. Yes, I can't
00:41:50 --> 00:41:51 think of it either. I know. Larry the Cable Guy.
00:41:51 --> 00:41:54 Yeah. Yeah, I can't. Is it Blue Collar Comedy
00:41:54 --> 00:41:55 or something like that? I think that was literally
00:41:55 --> 00:41:57 it. I think it was Blue Collar Comedy Tour. I
00:41:57 --> 00:41:59 think that's what it was, but that was hilarious.
00:41:59 --> 00:42:01 Yeah, it was. Ron White had one of my favorite
00:42:01 --> 00:42:03 jokes when he was talking about he was riding
00:42:03 --> 00:42:06 in such a small plane he got passed up by a kite.
00:42:07 --> 00:42:10 I was like. Man, it's just the way that he said
00:42:10 --> 00:42:12 it, because if I say it, it's not going to be
00:42:12 --> 00:42:15 that funny. Yeah, it's all about timing and their
00:42:15 --> 00:42:19 cadence. So you get your jokes just from just
00:42:19 --> 00:42:23 normal conversation. Normal life. Yeah, I talk
00:42:23 --> 00:42:27 about myself all the time. I'm not an observational
00:42:27 --> 00:42:30 comedian. It's all about me the whole time, just
00:42:30 --> 00:42:33 self -deprecating. This is what it's like to
00:42:33 --> 00:42:37 be. in your 50s and a single mom and dealing
00:42:37 --> 00:42:41 with, you know, an aging body and, you know,
00:42:42 --> 00:42:45 so, yeah. But you're like, do you ever think
00:42:45 --> 00:42:48 that might be because you mentioned earlier that
00:42:48 --> 00:42:49 you're an introvert? Do you think that's the
00:42:49 --> 00:42:53 reason why you tend to focus inward so much?
00:42:53 --> 00:42:55 Maybe. I never thought about that, but maybe
00:42:55 --> 00:42:59 it is. Maybe I'm narcissistic. I don't know.
00:43:00 --> 00:43:02 Oh, no, I don't think you're narcissistic. Well,
00:43:02 --> 00:43:04 most narcissists would never call themselves
00:43:04 --> 00:43:07 a narcissist, so that proves I'm not a narcissist.
00:43:07 --> 00:43:11 Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Whoa, psychology.
00:43:13 --> 00:43:16 No, I think, you know, you seem to have... you
00:43:16 --> 00:43:19 know, at least a little empathy, you know? Yeah.
00:43:19 --> 00:43:24 Yeah, I cry if a kitten dies. You know, even
00:43:24 --> 00:43:26 if you didn't know about it, you know, you just
00:43:26 --> 00:43:29 shed a tear just in case. Yeah, yeah. I'm not
00:43:29 --> 00:43:31 a narcissist. Let me cry. Right, I'm just going
00:43:31 --> 00:43:34 to cry. You know, I read somewhere, too, that,
00:43:34 --> 00:43:38 like, people with ADHD tend to cry a lot, and
00:43:38 --> 00:43:41 it almost brought me to tears. That's pretty
00:43:41 --> 00:43:45 good. Yeah, always just like, so true. So true.
00:43:46 --> 00:43:50 I don't know why, but I like to cry. I do. It's
00:43:50 --> 00:43:52 just weird. You just drive home and all of a
00:43:52 --> 00:43:56 sudden it's like. I only do that if I'm listening
00:43:56 --> 00:43:58 to country music and driving home. Oh yeah. Is
00:43:58 --> 00:44:02 there a song that gets you? You're going to miss
00:44:02 --> 00:44:05 this. You're going to want this back. Who's that?
00:44:06 --> 00:44:09 I think it's Trace Adkins, I think. Trace Adkins,
00:44:09 --> 00:44:13 okay. I think. It's about. Raising your kids
00:44:13 --> 00:44:16 and you know, they're little and it's like, oh,
00:44:16 --> 00:44:19 you know, oh, yeah. Yeah, that'll get you Yeah,
00:44:19 --> 00:44:21 anything I'm gonna do with children. Yeah, these
00:44:21 --> 00:44:23 little bastards. I can't stand them. You're gonna
00:44:23 --> 00:44:27 miss this You're gonna want this back of the
00:44:27 --> 00:44:32 country songs that get me. I think it's um Zach
00:44:32 --> 00:44:35 Brown band the colder weather. Mm -hmm. God that
00:44:35 --> 00:44:39 song that's such an amazing song. Mm -hmm. I
00:44:39 --> 00:44:41 don't know what I'm like, how do you capture
00:44:41 --> 00:44:45 winter? like that in a song, you know? It's poetry.
00:44:45 --> 00:44:48 It is. It's poetry. It's it's it's insane. You
00:44:48 --> 00:44:51 know, as I actually I kind of think of and I
00:44:51 --> 00:44:53 think that we spoke about this actually the last
00:44:53 --> 00:44:56 episode was I was kind of maybe mentioning to
00:44:56 --> 00:44:58 you. I hope that was you. But yeah, I was mentioning
00:44:58 --> 00:45:01 on how like I write jokes like I write songs.
00:45:01 --> 00:45:04 Oh, yeah. I put the rhythm to the cadence. Yeah.
00:45:04 --> 00:45:06 There's a cadence to it that I try to have. Yeah.
00:45:06 --> 00:45:08 You know, do you have any kind of like tips or
00:45:08 --> 00:45:11 tricks like that that you? incorporate? You know,
00:45:11 --> 00:45:13 I've heard that before. I've had other comedians
00:45:13 --> 00:45:19 tell me that. And I don't, really. But I always
00:45:19 --> 00:45:22 think about memorizing jokes. It's a lot like
00:45:22 --> 00:45:27 memorizing a song. Because I love to sing. And
00:45:27 --> 00:45:29 it's like, if I can remember a three and a half
00:45:29 --> 00:45:31 minute song, I can remember a three and a half
00:45:31 --> 00:45:34 minute joke. Yeah. So, you know, and I guess
00:45:34 --> 00:45:36 it would be kind of in a cadence, just like a
00:45:36 --> 00:45:39 song. Yeah. Yeah. Do you put like little reminders
00:45:39 --> 00:45:42 for yourself in your joke note, your joke notebook?
00:45:43 --> 00:45:45 Um, I will. Yeah. I'll have like a little list.
00:45:46 --> 00:45:49 Yeah. Yeah. It's like, okay, first I'm going
00:45:49 --> 00:45:53 to talk about fucking a baby. Then I'm going
00:45:53 --> 00:45:56 to talk about my front butt. And then, yeah.
00:45:56 --> 00:45:59 Your front butt? Yeah. I never heard that before.
00:46:00 --> 00:46:01 Your front butt. Man, I was like, is that what
00:46:01 --> 00:46:05 that is? Oh my gosh. Have you ever felt... like
00:46:05 --> 00:46:09 comedians were given opportunities that maybe
00:46:09 --> 00:46:12 you should have had. Is that bad again? Well,
00:46:12 --> 00:46:15 no, I'm trying to figure out how to word this
00:46:15 --> 00:46:19 so I don't sound like an asshole. Just be yourself.
00:46:19 --> 00:46:24 Yeah. Just let it out. An asshole. Okay. Well,
00:46:25 --> 00:46:31 here, I'll go into divulging some personal information.
00:46:34 --> 00:46:39 have a roommate and it's she's a trans Blackhawk
00:46:39 --> 00:46:46 pilot and I love her she's amazing and But it's
00:46:46 --> 00:46:51 hard to live with someone who Shares such amazing
00:46:51 --> 00:46:54 news every single day like she you know, we're
00:46:54 --> 00:46:56 standing in the kitchen. She's like, oh my god
00:46:56 --> 00:47:00 I just got offered a 45 minute set in Houston.
00:47:00 --> 00:47:03 Oh my God, Joe Rogan knows my name. I'm having
00:47:03 --> 00:47:06 a, I'm doing a podcast with David Lucas and we're
00:47:06 --> 00:47:11 fishing. And it's like, you know, I'm like, that's
00:47:11 --> 00:47:17 great. Congratulations. That roommate of yours
00:47:17 --> 00:47:23 is very like. She is a go -getter. She's killing
00:47:23 --> 00:47:30 it. Yeah, it's crazy. So I get where you're coming
00:47:30 --> 00:47:35 from. Yeah, it's really cool to see it sitting
00:47:35 --> 00:47:41 on the front row. Yeah. But it's also like, I
00:47:41 --> 00:47:44 don't have any, you know, like Jim Morgan doesn't
00:47:44 --> 00:47:48 know my name. Right, yeah. I feel that, I feel
00:47:48 --> 00:47:50 that. You know, it's like, it's kind of like,
00:47:51 --> 00:47:53 you actually said it before, like you mentioned
00:47:53 --> 00:47:54 about like how it's like on one hand you have,
00:47:55 --> 00:47:57 you know, you want to support your friends, you
00:47:57 --> 00:47:59 know, but on the other hand, you're kind of like,
00:48:00 --> 00:48:05 you know, damn. Yeah, it's hard not to feel a
00:48:05 --> 00:48:08 reflection, like, you know, what am I doing?
00:48:08 --> 00:48:12 Yeah. You know, but, you know, and she, and we've
00:48:12 --> 00:48:14 had conversations about this, you know, and she's
00:48:14 --> 00:48:18 like, I'm sorry, I don't mean to like, you know,
00:48:18 --> 00:48:21 make you feel bad. And I'm like, I don't want
00:48:21 --> 00:48:23 you to dim your light to make me feel comfortable.
00:48:24 --> 00:48:26 That's very nice of you. See, that's what I'm
00:48:26 --> 00:48:29 talking about. You're not a narcissist. Imagine
00:48:29 --> 00:48:32 if you were like, yeah, bitch. Let's fight. Could
00:48:32 --> 00:48:34 you imagine if I got in a fight with her? Oh,
00:48:34 --> 00:48:37 I would be pummeled. She's... Me too. She's got
00:48:37 --> 00:48:41 some guns, man. Yeah. Like, and not just on a
00:48:41 --> 00:48:45 helicopter. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it's insane.
00:48:45 --> 00:48:47 I have to remind myself that we're in two different
00:48:47 --> 00:48:49 lanes. We're in two different lanes, yes. Yeah.
00:48:50 --> 00:48:53 And her audience is definitely not my audience.
00:48:53 --> 00:48:56 It's true. definitely not her audience. Yeah.
00:48:57 --> 00:49:00 So I, you know, and I have to, I have to remind
00:49:00 --> 00:49:04 myself that we are building two separate comedy
00:49:04 --> 00:49:08 careers. Um, and, and, you know, my, and her
00:49:08 --> 00:49:13 focus is really to, um, get to know famous people.
00:49:13 --> 00:49:15 And she's doing amazing at doing that. I mean,
00:49:15 --> 00:49:20 she's on, you know, she's got direct cell phone
00:49:20 --> 00:49:25 numbers and texting with some big people, you
00:49:25 --> 00:49:28 know, and scheduling coffee dates with some big
00:49:28 --> 00:49:35 comedians. And, you know, I get excited if I
00:49:35 --> 00:49:39 get to go to Poke the Bear, which is still good.
00:49:40 --> 00:49:42 You know, and she'll try to make me feel better.
00:49:42 --> 00:49:44 And she's like, but someone recognized you at
00:49:44 --> 00:49:48 Walmart. I'm like, yeah, they sure did. It's
00:49:48 --> 00:49:51 the same. It's the same. You know, someone recognizing
00:49:51 --> 00:49:55 me at Walmart and you, having coffee with, you
00:49:55 --> 00:49:58 know, a headliner at the mothership. They're
00:49:58 --> 00:50:02 the same. Yeah, that's exactly the same. Which
00:50:02 --> 00:50:04 is kind of funny because it's sort of like, you
00:50:04 --> 00:50:07 know, it's the, you know, you understand that
00:50:07 --> 00:50:09 they're being nice. You understand that, you
00:50:09 --> 00:50:12 know, but they're also mentioning things that
00:50:12 --> 00:50:14 are very important to them. Yeah. And they're
00:50:14 --> 00:50:16 sharing it because it's important to them. They
00:50:16 --> 00:50:17 want to share with you. They want, you know,
00:50:17 --> 00:50:19 that to be important to you. So I guess like.
00:50:20 --> 00:50:22 Yeah. And I want to be her cheerleader. Yeah,
00:50:23 --> 00:50:25 you know, but uh, but what you mentioned earlier
00:50:25 --> 00:50:31 or just a second ago about how um, you know Like
00:50:31 --> 00:50:33 basically like it's it's like finding what's
00:50:33 --> 00:50:35 important to you You know and and how you said
00:50:35 --> 00:50:38 that your audiences differ and everything and
00:50:38 --> 00:50:41 it's like Do you want to be a talk show host?
00:50:41 --> 00:50:46 I do not you know, it's like my goals are to
00:50:46 --> 00:50:52 build a you know a following and and I know Who
00:50:52 --> 00:50:55 my following is it's it's it's the Midwest people.
00:50:55 --> 00:50:58 Yeah, you know and and when I look at my algorithm
00:50:58 --> 00:51:04 and I look at like who my my followers are they're
00:51:04 --> 00:51:08 Middle -aged men from the Midwest. That's who
00:51:08 --> 00:51:12 most of my followers followers are You know,
00:51:12 --> 00:51:15 we're in two different lanes. It's like, you
00:51:15 --> 00:51:19 know, she's she's meeting famous people Um, and
00:51:19 --> 00:51:23 I'm trying to build a fan base. Um, I'm focusing
00:51:23 --> 00:51:28 more on the people who follow me. Um, and, and
00:51:28 --> 00:51:33 I, when I look on my, um, social medias, I see
00:51:33 --> 00:51:36 that they're mostly people from the Midwest.
00:51:36 --> 00:51:42 And I'm, you know, I'm just trying to focus on
00:51:42 --> 00:51:48 getting them, doing comedy for them. Yeah. So
00:51:48 --> 00:51:51 if along the way, you know, I become friends
00:51:51 --> 00:51:54 with someone famous, it probably will be Joe,
00:51:54 --> 00:51:57 who's someone famous that I'm friends with. But,
00:51:57 --> 00:52:01 you know, that's great. But it's more about,
00:52:01 --> 00:52:05 you know, having a following and doing comedy
00:52:05 --> 00:52:09 for the people who want to come pay tickets,
00:52:09 --> 00:52:12 buy tickets to see me. Yeah. So that's what I'm
00:52:12 --> 00:52:16 focusing on. That's a good focus to have, especially
00:52:16 --> 00:52:19 when you learn who exactly you're performing
00:52:19 --> 00:52:23 for. It makes your comedic performances much
00:52:23 --> 00:52:24 better because you know who you're talking to.
00:52:27 --> 00:52:29 The beauty of watching your friends and being
00:52:29 --> 00:52:33 supportive of your friends, there is a part of
00:52:33 --> 00:52:36 you that goes like, damn, I wish I were there.
00:52:36 --> 00:52:38 But then there's a part of you that's like. But
00:52:38 --> 00:52:41 that's not the direction that I'm going in. And
00:52:41 --> 00:52:44 that's okay. And in being okay with that and
00:52:44 --> 00:52:47 in making you yourself, it's like that's when
00:52:47 --> 00:52:49 you really boil it all down, that's exactly what
00:52:49 --> 00:52:54 standup is. And that's your perspective and you
00:52:54 --> 00:52:57 gain people from how they share your perspective.
00:52:58 --> 00:53:02 Yeah. It's an interesting journey. And two years
00:53:02 --> 00:53:06 ago, if you would have... Told me that I would
00:53:06 --> 00:53:10 be living in Austin with a trans comedian who
00:53:10 --> 00:53:14 flew Blackhawk helicopters yeah, I would have
00:53:14 --> 00:53:18 said what type of crack are you smoking because
00:53:18 --> 00:53:21 Doesn't seem right but yeah, you know, it's it's
00:53:21 --> 00:53:25 fun. It's you know, yeah, it's it is a journey
00:53:25 --> 00:53:28 Yeah, you know and that's like, you know, that's
00:53:28 --> 00:53:31 something that and I didn't think of really until
00:53:32 --> 00:53:35 Until I really got into it, that's when I really
00:53:35 --> 00:53:39 saw what stand -up was. When I used to watch
00:53:39 --> 00:53:41 Comedy Central and things like that, I would
00:53:41 --> 00:53:43 just be like, man, there's these cool people
00:53:43 --> 00:53:47 saying cool shit and that's it. But now I'm like,
00:53:47 --> 00:53:52 there's so much work and there's so many elements.
00:53:52 --> 00:53:56 It's not just about going up on stage and just
00:53:56 --> 00:54:01 saying whatever. There's a lot behind it. There
00:54:01 --> 00:54:05 really is and there's so many nuances to it.
00:54:05 --> 00:54:10 It's a crazy little industry. It is. It is and
00:54:10 --> 00:54:13 it's always moving and always shifting and you're
00:54:13 --> 00:54:21 learning and going with it too. When I see your
00:54:21 --> 00:54:24 beloved Blackhawk helicopter roommate whom I've
00:54:24 --> 00:54:26 had on this episode or had on the show myself
00:54:26 --> 00:54:30 because of you actually. It's like when I see
00:54:30 --> 00:54:32 that and I see the people who are being tenacious
00:54:32 --> 00:54:34 out there and chasing the dream and everything,
00:54:34 --> 00:54:38 it makes me proud to be a part of the same realm,
00:54:39 --> 00:54:45 a part of the same thing. Case in point, I met
00:54:45 --> 00:54:49 a couple years ago at Creek, I think, for the
00:54:49 --> 00:54:54 first time I met Cam Patterson. I was there,
00:54:54 --> 00:54:57 he did a set and then got to hang with him a
00:54:57 --> 00:55:00 few times. Not enough to say he's a friend or
00:55:00 --> 00:55:02 nothing like that, but just a few times, which
00:55:02 --> 00:55:05 is kind of crazy. He goes to SNL. That's the
00:55:05 --> 00:55:07 cool thing about being in Austin, isn't it? Yeah,
00:55:07 --> 00:55:12 it is. You just never know who you're at a club
00:55:12 --> 00:55:17 with is going to pop off. Yeah. It's like, do
00:55:17 --> 00:55:19 you want to be the guy who's going to make it,
00:55:19 --> 00:55:21 or do you want to be the person to do it? Yeah.
00:55:21 --> 00:55:25 But all that does is just inspire you to next
00:55:25 --> 00:55:28 time you get on stage is do better. Yeah. I'm
00:55:28 --> 00:55:33 in my mid -50s, so I mean, I could be doing this
00:55:33 --> 00:55:38 for a while, I'm not sure. But someday, my grandkids
00:55:38 --> 00:55:43 are going to be like. My grandma knew so -and
00:55:43 --> 00:55:46 -so and you know, yeah Yeah, and the other thing
00:55:46 --> 00:55:49 is that footage, you know, just watching you
00:55:49 --> 00:55:51 on stage and everything. God, that's gonna be
00:55:51 --> 00:55:54 badass I know that'll be weird won't it? Yeah,
00:55:54 --> 00:55:55 cuz I think about like, you know if I were like
00:55:55 --> 00:55:59 to my grandma and she used to do like shows too,
00:55:59 --> 00:56:02 but like it was different like she kind of I
00:56:02 --> 00:56:05 can't describe him, but it was like Like she
00:56:05 --> 00:56:07 was like in this club or something with a bunch
00:56:07 --> 00:56:11 of these like, you know older ladies Yeah. And
00:56:11 --> 00:56:15 they did plays every year. So every year, all
00:56:15 --> 00:56:18 the grandkids, everybody would get together and
00:56:18 --> 00:56:20 we would go and just be a part of like this party
00:56:20 --> 00:56:23 where they would just do these plays. And I still
00:56:23 --> 00:56:27 don't understand it. But I remember now I look
00:56:27 --> 00:56:28 back at it and I'm like, okay, that was kind
00:56:28 --> 00:56:30 of badass. Yeah. How cool that you got to see
00:56:30 --> 00:56:33 your grandma do that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have
00:56:33 --> 00:56:37 grandkids, by the way, but my future grandkids.
00:56:37 --> 00:56:40 But they're going to be you know, telling their
00:56:40 --> 00:56:44 friends about their grandma's dry vagina. It's
00:56:44 --> 00:56:48 gonna be amazing. Yeah, they're gonna be like,
00:56:49 --> 00:56:52 huh, I wonder if she ever fixed that. That's
00:56:52 --> 00:56:57 not how that works. Man, well, is there anything
00:56:57 --> 00:56:59 that you would like to put out? We're pretty
00:56:59 --> 00:57:05 much wrapping it up now. Yeah. Let's see. I did
00:57:05 --> 00:57:10 secure a venue in South Austin to start producing
00:57:10 --> 00:57:14 shows. Really? Where? Where's this venue? It's
00:57:14 --> 00:57:17 called the Regal Room. Regal Room? Yeah. It's
00:57:17 --> 00:57:24 a black box, like 160 to 200 seat venue that
00:57:24 --> 00:57:26 usually does live music, but they're excited
00:57:26 --> 00:57:29 about doing comedy. That's awesome. Yeah. I haven't
00:57:29 --> 00:57:33 gotten a date yet. because I need to find a good
00:57:33 --> 00:57:36 headliner. We're going to have to stay tuned
00:57:36 --> 00:57:39 for that. Yeah, for September, but October 4th,
00:57:39 --> 00:57:45 I'm doing a show with Donna Lee and another female
00:57:45 --> 00:57:48 comedian from Michigan named Robin Gillerman.
00:57:49 --> 00:57:53 Okay. I'm trying to figure out a theme for that
00:57:53 --> 00:57:58 show because Donna Lee and I look so much alike
00:57:58 --> 00:58:01 and then, Robin Dillerman looks like us as well.
00:58:02 --> 00:58:05 Oh, trying to figure out a way to like for three.
00:58:05 --> 00:58:08 It's an October. October. October 4th. Yeah.
00:58:08 --> 00:58:11 Hocus pocus. Oh, yeah. The three like the three
00:58:11 --> 00:58:13 witches. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah. I know
00:58:13 --> 00:58:15 they don't look alike, but there's maybe something
00:58:15 --> 00:58:17 in that room there. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know.
00:58:17 --> 00:58:19 That's a good idea. I never thought about doing
00:58:19 --> 00:58:22 like Halloween themed. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Witchy.
00:58:22 --> 00:58:25 Witchy. Maybe. Yeah. Like, you know, I don't
00:58:25 --> 00:58:26 know. There's probably some in there. I don't
00:58:26 --> 00:58:28 know. I don't know. It's like, we'll have to
00:58:28 --> 00:58:32 see. I thought about naming it. If I did it,
00:58:32 --> 00:58:39 it was Donna. Oh, Donna. Donna Lee, man. She's
00:58:39 --> 00:58:42 so funny. She is, yeah. And it's funny because
00:58:42 --> 00:58:46 everyone would come up to me and... Say they,
00:58:46 --> 00:58:48 you know, met me at another show, and I'm like,
00:58:48 --> 00:58:50 you're talking about Donnelly. You didn't meet
00:58:50 --> 00:58:53 me. Oh, you can see that. Yeah. And recently,
00:58:54 --> 00:58:56 she went and signed up for Kill Tony, and I wasn't
00:58:56 --> 00:58:58 there, and everyone came up to her, and they
00:58:58 --> 00:59:01 were like, great episode! I was like, no, that
00:59:01 --> 00:59:03 was Kimberly. And I'm like, yes, I'm so glad
00:59:03 --> 00:59:05 it happens to you too, not just me. Oh, that's
00:59:05 --> 00:59:09 great. Yeah. That's awesome. Man, well, Kimberly,
00:59:09 --> 00:59:11 thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. I
00:59:11 --> 00:59:13 love having you on. And I love that this is like
00:59:13 --> 00:59:16 part two for you. Yeah. This is great. Yeah.
00:59:16 --> 00:59:18 And thank you so much for your patience dealing
00:59:18 --> 00:59:20 with that technical difficulty. Yeah, you gave
00:59:20 --> 00:59:24 me free coffee. So I'll do a lot for free coffee.
00:59:24 --> 00:59:27 Hell yeah. Well, thank you so much. I really
00:59:27 --> 00:59:29 appreciate it so much. And I can't wait to have
00:59:29 --> 00:59:32 you back on again. Cool. Yeah. Cool. And that
00:59:32 --> 00:59:36 is it. That is a wrap. Adios. Hehehehehe!